Spanish Supercopa Final: Real Madrid - Barca 4-1

[JamDav1982]

If Barca lose due to Pena being shite that wont be on Xavi as much and be a huge hit really.

What would be bad for Barca is being out done all over park and looking clearly second best.

 

[jamrock]

With pena in goal I can't see us winning, really would make him work.

I can see Bellingham and vini jr taking a shots at the smallest sight of goal.

 

[jamrock]

I was generally optimistic but I forgot about Pena and I think he’s seriously capable of giving a victory away all by himself. Kepa is far more reliable than him even when vastly inferior to Courtois. Real are going to test him hard when pushing for a victory starting from second half with shots by valverde modric kroos and bellingham tchouameni and rudiger might have a go or two just outside of the area.

Ancelotti ain’t dumb.


In terms of overall performance we will have one of our best showings of the season.

I posted about pena without reading this.

But I totally agree.

We won't win, with him in goal.

 

[Horatio]

Ancelotti does this thing where he progressively throughout the game shifts gears. It disrupts opponent at certain moments and has real conserve energy for final stage. Atletico didnt have energy to match them when they moved to final gear(even one before atletico decided to play pure counter) We do even when some players are slow. But if our tactics turn out funky and we gonna defend 1-0 lead when players are not comfortable doing that…

 

[JamDav1982]

Pena looks nervous as fuck..if Barca play ok and lose to him being shite then so be it. Nothing can really do about it and it wont look terrible for Barca/Xavi.

If he is one of many who are shite and get dominated as a team that is a different story.

 

[Andresito]

Out of all the crosses in these 10 games he's played he's collected (and held) at most 2.

Think long shots and crosses will be Madrid's tactic.

 

[FC B]

In those matches everything can happen, last year we won 3-1 super Copa and lost 0-4 at home in Copa. Barca players will be on fire and with a bit luck everything is possible dude, you sound very pessimistic last weeks

Ofc it's not impossible to win but highly unlikely atm. The "pessimism"stems from Barca's play both individually and collectively so that I expect a collapse of the team sooner or later meaning if not now vs. Madrid maybe in CL KO's.

 

[Iniesta Ultra]

I don't see Madrid gifting us goals as much as other teams so I'm putting our chances at ~30%.

 

[Windhook]

I'm on a positive vibe - Barca played 30 minutes less of football compared to Real - ATM extra-time. The game is not played at Santiago Bernabeu, nor the dead atmosphere of Montjuic. It's in Saudi Arabia where fans have no real clue on both club cultures. Chances are 50/50. If that game was played in Spain I'd give Real Madrid the advantage for sure.

 

[Barcaman]

Listen, Xavi said we were better in last Clasico than Real. Better for 60 minutes.
Too bad Fifa, UEFA and rest of the world count 90 mins per match.

Also, heard him say we played great in last Supercopa clasico. That is true. But was also a year ago.

I don't know in which world Hernandez brothers live in but it isn't reality and it isn't present.

 

[JamDav1982]

Play well for 60 mins and lose... 'but we played well for most of match'.

Play like shite for 90 mins like against Sociedad but somehow win...'we take the three points. Would sign up for that'.

Xavi before boss would preach about how Barca have to play AND win in a certain way that no other club has and its an 'obligation' to now picking one of the two as good enough.

 

[NKMaribor]

It will be high scoring game. 5:3 my prediction.

 

[Windhook]

We lack the DM player. Someone who can dominate and terrorize opposition's build-up play. Patrice Viera, Kante, Yaya Toure and prime Busi type of player. That's it. The missing ingredient.

 

[Temptation]

We lack the DM player. Someone who can dominate and terrorize opposition's build-up play. Patrice Viera, Kante, Yaya Toure and prime Busi type of player. That's it. The missing ingredient.

I think you mean a midfield general......in which case I'd say Busquets doesn't fall under that category.

Busquets is a proper pure DM who only plays at the base of the midfield and makes interceptions through his positioning off the ball and reading of the game.


A midfield general like Viera, Keane, Kante can play as a DM or CM and dominate off the ball by their relentless pressing, physicality, leadership and aggression. These players are bonafide ball winners and cover a lot of ground. They drive forward and make runs more often similar to what a box to box midfielder would. The Busquets type(or the DLP type like Old Pirlo for that matter) doesn't do this.


Busquets isn't that dominant off the ball. At his best, he was more clever than dominant. His defensive positioning and reading of the game was what helped him make those interceptions. He wasn't a physical pressing monster like the others.


Slightly different player profile than Viera, Keane, Gattuso, Kante, etc.

 

[Windhook]

I think you mean a midfield general......in which case I'd say Busquets doesn't fall under that category.

Busquets is a proper pure DM who only plays at the base of the midfield and makes interceptions through his positioning off the ball and reading of the game.


A midfield general like Viera, Keane, Kante can play as a DM or CM and dominate off the ball by their relentless pressing, physicality, leadership and aggression. These players are bonafide ball winners and cover a lot of ground. They drive forward and make runs more often similar to what a box to box midfielder would. The Busquets type(or the DLP type like Old Pirlo for that matter) doesn't do this.


Busquets isn't that dominant off the ball. At his best, he was more clever than dominant. His defensive positioning and reading of the game was what helped him make those interceptions. He wasn't a physical pressing monster like the others.


Slightly different player profile than Viera, Keane, Gattuso, Kante, etc.

All due respect, I think you are diminishing Busi to a mediocre poor man's Viera. IMO prime Busquets was the greatest tackler of the ball I've ever seen. A player who had both great defender and midfielder qualities. But with time he became a problem once teams started to play the counter-attack philosophy of speed-football.