Talent Poaching Thread

[antonnn]

What are you smoking? Wenger gets heaps of 15-17 year olds too.

 

[House of Flies]

go on... from which clubs?

arsene gets boatload of youngsters from africa... but which 17 year old has arsene tracked... he has always preferred early highschool kids.

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Is it tell on all the english clubs month or something ffs.

 

[Cule Angles]

What youngsters from Africa? There has been the odd player to come through Beveren (Eboué, Touré) but none at Arsenal itself because of UK immigration laws.

Is it tell on all the english clubs month or something ffs.

Yes, the judgement day has arrived and it's time for the cunts to pay.

 

[antonnn]

go on... from which clubs?

arsene gets boatload of youngsters from africa... but which 17 year old has arsene tracked... he has always preferred early highschool kids.

The kid from Cardiff is one, Ramsey? He was about 17. Walcott at 16/17. Clichy at 18. Senderos at 18. Cesc at 16. Vela at 16. Denilson at 18. Merida at 16. Traore at 16. Song at 18. Bendtner at 16.

You really think he gets only 13-14 year olds? Crazy kid.

 

[House of Flies]

The kid from Cardiff is one, Ramsey? He was about 17. Walcott at 16/17. Clichy at 18. Senderos at 18. Cesc at 16. Vela at 16. Denilson at 18. Merida at 16. Traore at 16. Song at 18. Bendtner at 16.

You really think he gets only 13-14 year olds? Crazy kid.

walcott and ramsey were signed with fees... not free of charge like man utd and chelsea are guilty of. so were senderos, vela, traore, song, denilson, and bendtner...

cesc and merida were rather poached but none of them were considered to be the stars of the academy at barcelona.

 

[antonnn]

I'm just speaking of Wenger getting youngsters generally, not really dodgy dealings. He gets all ages and then takes the credit, the tosser. Half of them don't end up nothing like they are made out to be too.

And if you look at all the 'great youth' that Wenger has gotten over the years, all the ones who are in the first team are the ones he got at later ages, none of the ones he's poached at younger ages have made it anywhere. The only one who looks like getting anywhere is Wilshere. That's what, 1 in a massive bunch of youngsters? Wenger isn't that good.

All in all, I still consider it poaching cause he's gone and taken these kids of all ages and takes the credit for it all when the ones who have been at Arsenal since young ages are shit and the ones he gets later turn out half decent at best, other than Cesc.

 

[House of Flies]

yah but fabregas could be said was developed to this level by wenger and many others who were bought by him at a young age and then made into what they are right now.

eboue, kolo toure, stepanovs... however, when you compare that to man utds or chelsea's team... how many of their young guns have actually made the team in the past few years? all of the man utd gems of the youth team got sold off to other clubs and chelsea still wait on mancienne to come good.

he didnt poach them. he agreed a fee with the club (except for the barcelona ones) and then got them. chelsea and man utd tell them to break their contract to be and sign them. that is retardedly wrong and hence chelsea were punished.

 

[antonnn]

Both our teams young players are not really THAT much worse than the ones Wenger have, IMO. Wenger just has A LOT more faith, and he's a tight ass with buying players so he relies on the kids. I wonder how long it'll be before the board sack him, cause it's pretty clear his current batch of young players aren't cutting the mustard.

At Chelsea if you fuck up you get sacked, so like any of our managers are going to take a risk to play youngsters when if it backfires they get sacked? It's an unfair situation but that's how it is really.

 

[Metaphysical]

according to a post on another forum I was on...

The agent of Paul Pogba insists the youngster's move to Manchester United is "watertight".

Gaël Mahé, Pogba’s agent, said: “No money had changed hands up front, though Paul will get a very good contract when he turns professional. All he has from United is a flat in Manchester for him and his mother to live in.

"The problem is that there are three things Le Havre do not have. They do not have a contract aspirant, they do not have convention of formation and they do not have a late-trigger contract. All they have is a contract of non-solicitation, which is invalid outside France.

“We spent a long time ensuring that the document we signed with Manchester United was legally watertight.”

no source given tho.

 

[antonnn]

So City have been accused twice, and so have United, naughty naughty. I'm sure both of United's cases will be thrown out, but City on the other hand we'll have to see about, especially since Ken Bates is behind one of the complaints, wanker.

How long until Arsenal get accused?

 

[bombayblue™]

T-10 seconds

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Its amazing how hypocritical these French clubs are being after the things they put kids from Africa through.They send their scouts out to Africa and bring talented young players for trials, if they don't make it they are dumped on the streets of france, but of course this isn't important to Fifa they'd rather focus on dead end witch hunts.How classy, from footballs governing body.

 

[Cule Angles]

That's a cheap diversionary tactic, the equivalent of a child being front of the teacher and moaning "yeah but Miss, look what Harry's done". At least one English club has been found guilty of breaking the rules, more have been accused and the rules need to be upheld. French clubs aren't whiter than white (no pun intended), they're very cynical in their plundering of African football schools but unless a French club has broken the rules and been found guilty of doing so the point is irrelevant.

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

That's a cheap diversionary tactic, the equivalent of a child being front of the teacher and moaning "yeah but Miss, look what Harry's done". At least one English club has been found guilty of breaking the rules, more have been accused and the rules need to be upheld. French clubs aren't whiter than white (no pun intended), they're very cynical in their plundering of African football schools but unless a French club has broken the rules and been found guilty of doing so the point is irrelevant.

I'm not diverting anything i'm just trying to make a point.Its perfectly relevant, Fifa are the governing body of football their role in a nutshell is to govern.Instead of wasting time on banning players for diving, or placing transfer bans clubs for poaching when the details are a bit foggy.
Its not only football schools that are plundered especially in West Africa, where the need is more.Take Micheal Essien for example, his mother was a street hawker in Ghana selling bread on the road side making 5 Cedi's( £1.50 ) at the end of everyday with five children to feed at home.If you were told by a French scout that your child has talent, he wants to take him to Europe, with the possibility of playing for a european football team would you say no? When the kids dumped on the streets, who's the bread seller gonna complain to, FIFA? Hardily.
FIFA need to focus on the developing football policy in countries where the laws for these things are unclear, they need to focus on the countries where doing these things are easier to get away with.Where there is no system besides getting a visa and jumping on a plane.