BBZ8800
Senior Member
Where do you come up with these numbers? These are self-serving numbers you just make up on the fly. You dont judge players as individuals at all. Since you refuse to answer the question, I conclude that you were against signing Neymar, Umtiti, Nelsinho and Lemar for 25m euros. You claim its hindsight that Lemar should have been bought, but look back and see what I said about Lemar, Andre Gomes and Paco last year. To you, they were and are all the same, because they are young. To people who judge players individually they are not. I never wanted Gomes. Lemar and Fabinho should have been bought. We should have bought a LB that could cover as RB and the forward should be able to play multiple positions up front. This is not hindsight. It was common sense then and it was common sense now. You probably didnt want Gomes either because he was young. But that doesnt mean we should dismiss the signing of Naby Keita for example, just because he is also young. You argue against Goretzka on the cheap as well. It seems you have a very odd way of looking at players. You claim that 22-23 year olds need at least 2 years before they can even perform at a decent level for us. So we still have to wait and see if Umtiti can perform? Where do you come up with such ideas? No player is risk free. Not even so-called "immediate impact" Ibra, Arda and Cesc.
20%, is my estimation, based on Barca's last 20-30 years.
Or, check La Masia, percentages are around 5-10% there.
Or check all young players with potentials, bought by big clubs, follow them for 5 years and then do the maths.
I am not interested in this hindsight regarding Lemar for 25M because I don't know how many other players you or others proposed back then.
For example, if you said in 2016: we need to buy Lemar, xx, yy and zz.
And 2 years later, Lemar turned into a great player and 2 others stayed meh, then again, the same thing happened as always. 1 out of 4 or 5 young gems made it and others failed.
So, since I don't know HOW MANY players you proposed in a summer 2016 and you are using a hindsight now.
Do the test, write down NOW 10 players who are NOW (October 2017) worth 20-30 Millions and who look like a good deals (Goretzka is everyone's favorite currently).
Find 5-10 more Goretzkas for whom you think that we should buy NOW, and we will together follow them for 2-3 years.
Then, I am quite sure, you'll see how 7-8 of those current Goretzkas will fail, as always.
It is easy to pick one example who turned out to be good and say: I told you so.
Again, is Lemar the only guy whom you wanted in a summer of 2016?
Were there some other fullbacks, defenders, midfielders, attackers, who looked good back then and nothing (special) happened in their development later?
Further, I have no idea why are you mentioning Semedo.
I will write it in a simple way:
1. Semedo for 30-40M=do it
2. Lemar for 25M=do it, but don't buy 5 Lemars for 25M in one summer. Pick 1-2 the most perspective youngsters and bet ONLY on them
3. Lemar this summer for 120M=lol, hell no
Why are you putting Semedo and Lemar in the same sentence?
Semedo and Umtiti are the kind of somewhat cheaper transfers with young gems what we should do.
Lemar for 120M is beyond crazy and unreasonable.
And one more time, I am not against YOUNG players.
I AM AGAINST buying ONLY young players.
And I amn against buying 5 youngsters in one summer (a crazy risk which will probably end as a disaster).
Again, write down 10 names who are hot deals TODAY, worth 20-30-40M.
Then we'll follow them, and you'll see that the board isn't THAT dumb. It is more likely that fans are too naive and too enthusiastic about any young player out there.