Tito responds to Guardiola's claims

[JamDav1982]

I'm not assuming who's right, I'm just saying accusing Pep already is premature and bitter.

I would say there are issues on both sides.

What makes Pep more in the wrong here is this was a planned attack on the club that seems not to even have much substance. Why did he not mention these things earlier?

Barcelona are not in the wrong for responding at all they had to and actually gave Pep a lot of praise in doing it as well as giving their own opinion.

Pep brought this argument to the press. The reasons are largely irrelevant.

 

[JamDav1982]

Pep surely shouldn't had started this mess. He must have his reasons, but it still wasn't the right thing to do. And unfortunetely Tito followed him down that road, making the drama even worse. I really hope Pep won't respond again, or it will become even more sad than it already is.

Tito didnt make it worse, he responded to Pep as he should and is entitled to.

Pep cannot just give his opinion on all matters Barcelona and people not be expected to respond it may start a war of words.

They had to respond and Tito did it well and in doing so.

 

[Flavia]

Tito didnt make it worse, he responded to Pep as he should and is entitled to.

Pep cannot just give his opinion on all matters Barcelona and people not be expected to respond it may start a war of words.

They had to respond and Tito did it well and in doing so.

All matters barcelona? Lol. Pep attacked rosell. He didnt attack tito or Barça. Theres a quote from pep praising tito and the 100 points, saying he doesnt believe barça is on any crisis as some on the press especulate. From the same interview when he attacked rosell. So yeah, pep was wrong to do what he did, but tito now portraing him as a horrible friend was also low, and I still don't understand why he did it, as it has nothing to do with anything Pep said about rosell.

 

[JamDav1982]

All matters barcelona? Lol. Pep attacked rosell. He didnt attack tito or Barça. Theres a quote from pep praising tito and the 100 points, saying he doesnt believe barça is on any crisis as some on the press especulate. From the same interview when he attacked rosell. So yeah, pep was wrong to do what he did, but tito now portraing him as a horrible friend was also low, and I still don't understand why he did it, as it has nothing to do with anything Pep said about rosell.

By having attacking Rosell he is attacking the club and he knows that fine.

He didnt attack Tito but he brought Titos illness as a discussion point and used it in his dig at the club, he said the club would not leave him alone and crossed the line many times. Why wait til now if that is true? Why not contact them in private and ask them to stop? Because even if Barcelona did contact him it was done in private or on the quiet.

It is Pep that brought this public and got the likes of Tito involved in the situation.

He began the war of words.

But some people think that is fine as long as he had his reasons?

 

[Rivaldo]

Pep never should have said those things in public, but in all honesty I'm glad he said that because It's for the good of the club that the people never re-elect Rossell ever again.

I don't like this conflict that is happening. Call me a conspiracy theorist but it feels like Rossell is trying to tarnish Laporta's legacy and everyone associated with him.

 

[JamDav1982]

Pep never should have said those things in public, but in all honesty I'm glad he said that because It's for the good of the club that the people never re-elect Rossell ever again.

I don't like this conflict that is happening. Call me a conspiracy theorist but it feels like Rossell is trying to tarnish Laporta's legacy and everyone associated with him.

That old argument.

How has Rosell done that then?

 

[DennyCrane]

Here's the point I'm trying to make:

-We don't know what Rosell did to aggravate Pep in the first place
-We don't know what happened in New York between Tito and Pep, or the reasons as to why Pep couldn't visit much (which could've been on behalf of both sides)
-We don't know what Pep, Tito, or Rosell are trying to accomplish by saying these things

And the sheer fact that all involved parties here seemingly forgot how to use a telephone or other means of communication other than press conferences to resolve internal issues should be food for thought. The only thing one can learn from this whole poor show is that every involved party has their own agenda, which the audience doesn't know about, yet people are foolish enough to prematurely choose a side out of emotional/whatever reasons but not based on the matter at hand.

The only one I feel sorry for is Tito, as he's trapped in a pile of bullshit again which he can't do anything about and for which he isn't responsible either.

 

[Birdy]

he clearly wouldn't have said anything about it had Pep not assigned his friend from Argentina to set him up for a tirade against Rosell.

Who is his friend from Argentina?


Well, i dont see the connection btw Pep-Rossell quarel and Tito having to answer.. It was none of his job to enter btw Rosel and Guardiola.. Judging from his answer it is clear that there is a lot more of it under the statements and things are more complicated...
Since Tito hasnt remained neutral on this avoiding to comment at all, it means that he is either blackmailed from Rosel and management to answer for them (which i doubt) or Tito and Pep have made a mess in their relationship and this is not unrelated to the position each hold right now..

 

[JamDav1982]

Who is his friend from Argentina?


Well, i dont see the connection btw Pep-Rossell quarel and Tito having to answer.. It was none of his job to enter btw Rosel and Guardiola.. Judging from his answer it is clear that there is a lot more of it under the statements and things are more complicated...
Since Tito hasnt remained neutral on this avoiding to comment at all, it means that he is either blackmailed from Rosel and management to answer for them (which i doubt) or Tito and Pep have made a mess in their relationship and this is not unrelated to the position each hold right now..

Pep brought it public though that is the point.

I am sure people can accept that Pep Rosell/Tito might not get on but Pep made it public and goaded them to respond.

Of course Tito would get asked the question and it seems he was a bit irritated at Pep for wrongly trying to play the victim in all this and losing all sense of reality and perspective over who was really having the hard time in New York.

Pep just comes across as all about himself and very self centered in this attack.

Why choose now and why make it public?

 

[Flavia]

By having attacking Rosell he is attacking the club and he knows that fine.

He didnt attack Tito but he brought Titos illness as a discussion point and used it in his dig at the club, he said the club would not leave him alone and crossed the line many times. Why wait til now if that is true? Why not contact them in private and ask them to stop? Because even if Barcelona did contact him it was done in private or on the quiet.

It is Pep that brought this public and got the likes of Tito involved in the situation.

He began the war of words.

But some people think that is fine as long as he had his reasons?

It's not fine and I even said that on my post. Either you don't read everything or you just love quote wars and to repeat the same thing over and over and over...

Pep said he asked them many times to stop whatever it was, and that was on private. Once more, I'll repeat myself, but for the last time: pep was wrong to do what he did, but tito now portraing him as a horrible friend was also low, and I still don't understand why he did it, as it has nothing to do with anything Pep said about rosell.

Pep began a war with rosell(who also had already answered pep last night). The way I see it, Tito added unnecessary fuel to the fire. I don't care about their relationship, but this war of words can be harmful to Barça, and this is my concern. Tito should think of that first, before giving the media more material to continue with this. because someone will now ask pep about all Tito said, and he might go on.

Funny thing is, back on mou's time at rm, when pep refrained from adding fuel to mou's provocations, he was praised around here. Now Tito did the opposite and was the right thing to do.

 

[JamDav1982]

It's not fine and I even said that on my post. Either you don't read everything or you just love quote wars and to repeat the same thing over and over and over...

Pep said he asked them many times to stop whatever it was, and that was on private. Once more, I'll repeat myself, but for the last time: pep was wrong to do what he did, but tito now portraing him as a horrible friend was also low, and I still don't understand why he did it, as it has nothing to do with anything Pep said about rosell.

Pep began a war with rosell(who also had already answered pep last night). The way I see it, Tito added unnecessary fuel to the fire. I don't care about their relationship, but this war of words can be harmful to Barça, and this is my concern. Tito should think of that first, before giving the media more material to continue with this. because someone will now ask pep about all Tito said, and he might go on.

Funny thing is, back on mou's time at rm, when pep refrained from adding fuel to mou's provocations, he was praised around here. Now Tito did the opposite and was the right thing to do.

I am saying that Pep knows fine that attacking Rosell is an attack on the club.

Get off your high horse and understand English I am saying Pep knew fine not you think its fine!

Where does Pep say he asked them many times to stop in private?

He did not just mention Rosell he referred to the club as 'they' and he also made comment to the coaches everyone should be happy with the players they have etc as if everyone is still pining for him.

 

[JamDav1982]

It's not fine and I even said that on my post. Either you don't read everything or you just love quote wars and to repeat the same thing over and over and over...

Pep said he asked them many times to stop whatever it was, and that was on private. Once more, I'll repeat myself, but for the last time: pep was wrong to do what he did, but tito now portraing him as a horrible friend was also low, and I still don't understand why he did it, as it has nothing to do with anything Pep said about rosell.

Pep began a war with rosell(who also had already answered pep last night). The way I see it, Tito added unnecessary fuel to the fire. I don't care about their relationship, but this war of words can be harmful to Barça, and this is my concern. Tito should think of that first, before giving the media more material to continue with this. because someone will now ask pep about all Tito said, and he might go on.

Funny thing is, back on mou's time at rm, when pep refrained from adding fuel to mou's provocations, he was praised around here. Now Tito did the opposite and was the right thing to do.

And comparing this situation to Mourinho and Pep not speaking out is a poor point.

Mou was seen as borderline imbecile with some of the rants he came out with, his opinion on the scheme of things was not relevant enough to warrant a response for the big part.

Pep is a hugely influential figure for Barcelona still now and he cant be ignore the way Mou was because of it. His attacks on the club will be a lot more destructive than Mourinhos were.

The situations are barely worth comparing.

 

[Flavia]

I am saying that Pep knows fine that attacking Rosell is an attack on the club.

Get off your high horse and understand English I am saying Pep knew fine not you think its fine!

Where does Pep say he asked them many times to stop in private?

He did not just mention Rosell he referred to the club as 'they' and he also made comment to the coaches everyone should be happy with the players they have etc as if everyone is still pining for him.

I was referring to this sentence of yours: "But some people think that is fine as long as he had his reasons?" Maybe you should try to understand your own english

 

[JamDav1982]

I was referring to this sentence of yours: "But some people think that is fine as long as he had his reasons?" Maybe you should try to understand your own english

Aplogies I got that wrong then.

Having said that at no point does Pep say he asked them to leave him alone while he was away.

He did not do that as far as I can see and he brought it to the press.

 

[Flavia]

Aplogies I got that wrong then.

Having said that at no point does Pep say he asked them to leave him alone while he was away.

He did not do that as far as I can see and he brought it to the press.

“I only asked Rosell one thing, having gone 6,000km away, that he leave me in peace. He didn’t honour his word,” said Pep. Guardiola also denied that he thinks that Tito could not manage to use players like Messi and Neymar together: “Last season he [Tito] did his best, completing the most successful season in the history of the club is enough argument for me to tell whether you have ability or no. The good players are always able to play together, and these two [Messi and Neymar] too.” “This last year there have been many things that have gone too far. Using Tito’s illness against me, that I won’t ever forget. It’s in very bad taste, I didn’t expect it. I saw Tito in New York, if I didn’t see him more it was because it wasn’t possible, but not on my part. Suggesting I want things to go badly for someone I’ve been friends with for so long? That’s in very bad taste,” said Guardiola very strongly.

I really see no reason to why Tito lashed out on Pep. Even if he was hurt by Pep not being a good friend, doing this thru the media wasn't needed, or the right thing to do. I just hope Pep let this go, or instead of talking about football, we'll be discussing things like that.