UEFA Champions League 2015/16

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serghei

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Well the highlights aren't reliable on such an opinion. Bayern was absolutely dominating Juventus for 60minutes, playing handball inside and outside their box until Juventus got a surprise goal out of nothing. Juventus got stronger when bayern started to become a liuttle scared.
Individually it was a massive demonstration of power from Bayern, Juventus then had the psychological advantage, but really thats about it. The difference between them playwise was pretty obvious

Dominating possession means nothing. Juventus actually had more shots on target than Bayern (7-5) and a not given penalty. Juventus had opportunities to win the game, that's all I'm saying. Power demonstration from Bayern? Can't agree with that.
 

Yannik

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Dominating possession means nothing. Juventus actually had more shots on target than Bayern (7-5) and a not given penalty.

But Bayern had the better chances. Müller, Robben, Bernat in the first half alone.
And the pen is debatable, Vidal had his arm shot on in a natural position from a distance of 1,5m and didnt move his hand towards the ball, the ball moved towards his arm isntead. He should be a gk if he did that on purpose.
You should really watch the game, you'd know what I mean
 

DrPepper

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Not surprised at all with Bayern losing their lead. It's Pep we're talking about here. The man simply doesn't win away matches. Deal with it.
 

serghei

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But Bayern had the better chances. Müller, Robben, Bernat in the first half alone.
And the pen is debatable, Vidal had his arm shot on in a natural position from a distance of 1,5m. He should be a gk if he did that on purpose.

Pogba, Mandzukic two times and Cuadrado also had important chances. Event he commentator called it a close game, and stats (outside possession, which is about style of play actually) say it was a close game.

Not saying Bayern wasn't better, but not by much, over the course of 90 mins. Not 60, not 70. 90 minutes. Juventus actually pushed for the win late in the game.
 

Yannik

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Pogba, Mandzukic two times and Cuadrado also had important chances. Event he commentator called it a close game, and stats (outside possession, which is about style of play actually) say it was a close game.

Not saying Bayern wasn't better, but not by much, over the course of 90 mins. Not 60, not 70. 90 minutes. Juventus actually pushed for the win late in the game.

No the werent much better over the course of the full 90mins, the scoreline underlines that, but if you'd say Juventus could have won, the same applies to Bayern. The two goals Juve had came from Kimmich fucking up there and the rest was just gameplay dictated by emotion.
 

Yannik

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how did pogba play? :)

Had the lion-share at the 2nd goal of Juventus, even if the interception was a bit lucky. Apart from that he was like the otehr Juve players, passive for 60 and aggressive for 30 minutes. But I would single out him, Mandzukic and Cuadrado as Juve's best players tonight.
 

dakt

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Well the highlights aren't reliable on such an opinion. Bayern was absolutely dominating Juventus for 60minutes, playing handball inside and outside their box until Juventus got a surprise goal out of nothing. Juventus got stronger when bayern started to become a liuttle scared.
Individually it was a massive demonstration of power from Bayern, Juventus then had the psychological advantage, but really thats about it. The difference between them playwise was pretty obvious

Great! You've just summed up football. That is enough to get the team through. Luck and psychological advantage gained by it.
Barca might be the best club atm, but w/o luck, we won't go far as well.
 

Catalan Fan

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dakt, you have been beaten by a GIRL, hold your head in shame :lol:

Robben's goal was a corker and Mandzukic had a point to prove.BM to go through.... they still worry me.
 

ejuventus

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Well the highlights aren't reliable on such an opinion. Bayern was absolutely dominating Juventus for 60minutes, playing handball inside and outside their box until Juventus got a surprise goal out of nothing. Juventus got stronger when bayern started to become a liuttle scared.
Individually it was a massive demonstration of power from Bayern, Juventus then had the psychological advantage, but really thats about it. The difference between them playwise was pretty obvious


I cannot do anything else but confirm
 

Yannik

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I cannot do anything else but confirm

Thank you. That being said, Juventus first half was an understatement of what they are capable of. The role Allegri applied to them wasn't what they're used to.
When the match started and both teams were at ground zero, Bayern was the one who made the game from the start and Juventus wasn't on their level. This might have been less obvious, had Allegri told them to go higher up the pitch and develop an own game, but I think it's still noticable that there were differences. Juventus biggest freind was the turnpoint of the 1-2 where all tactics and gameplans from both teams went over board, and it was just a match driven by emotion rather than anything else.
The classic set-up of a nervous team in danger of their former 2 goal lead, and the other team that found their belief again. This happens sooooo often, especially in CL, and those are gamebreaker-moments. Noone concentrates anymore and coaches become obsolete. Actually those are the most awesome moments in CL matches, I just wish they hadn't happened to Bayern today.

I can see Juventus progressing, but only if they replicate Bayern's anxiety of loosing a lead or the tie as a whole. Imagine them leading 1-0 at home, then Juventus gets the 1-1 against the run of play like it happened with Dybala's goal. Then Bayern would just try to defend in pure anxiety and Juve would go all out until the 2nd goal. I can see Juve progressing this way, but not just by just outplaying Bayern in any aspect. I don't think that's the right approach, only Barca is capable of that. Juve is far from out, but it's gonna be a tough cookie
 
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