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danumber10

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No, that's not the reason why Villa is better than Van Persie. His average is also superior: he has scored 0,5 goals per match, while VP has 0,42. This is even more impressive because the more matches you play your average becomes more likely to drop. So it has nothing to do with playing more matches, just with Villa being the superior goalscorer and player.

And those numbers prove nothing; look where the players from the top 4 teams in the world cup played: Spain's lineup, the world champions, all played in La Liga. Holland's best player in the world cup, Sneijder and Robben, played in the Bundesliga and Serie A respectively. Germany players were almost all from the Bundesliga. Uruguay had players in La Liga (Forlán), Dutch League (Suarez), Portuguese League (Alvaro Pereira, Maxi Pereira, Fucile) and none from the Premier League. The World Cup actually proved that the best players are not in the Premier League, as if any proof was needed.
As I said I'm not denying Vila's goal ratio is better but it's deff not that far away from a player like RVP. The only reason why Villa has alot more goals is b,c of games played. Van Persie has played about half the games villa has played. I will never doubt that villa has been amazing all these years but he's not getting any ever , his numbers actually decreased when he came to Barca. I can't deny that the best players in the world at the moment are in la liga but they are mainly divided between Barca and Madrid making them stronger than the rest of teams and therefore making it easier for the stars in the big 2 to score more goals. While in england the best players in the EPL are scattered among the top 5-6 teams and even the others teams have good enough players to face the other teams. After the Netherlands , Germany and England both provided more players for Holland than any other league. With spain providing only 1 player Van Dervart who today plays in England by the way. Germany provided only German players from the German league . Suarez now plays in England (surprise) why would you name portugal? lol THe EPL also had 2 players in Spain. And one of those (David Silva) Now plays in England.
 
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xaviniesta

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Of course the number of goals and assists from Villa is better than Van Persie's because while RVP has played 337 games , David Villa has played 530 games , almost the twice the number of games. Everyone knows that is harder to score in the EPL than scoring in la liga. Unfortunately there is far better players in The EPL than La liga. To give you an idea, The EPL was the league to provide the greater number of players for the world cup. Here's the list: 111 England 139
2 Germany 94
3 Italy 93
4 Spain 74
As you can see Spain was number 4. There is more quaity players (defenders, midfielders, attackers, golies) in the EPL than la Liga. That's why It's the best league in the world. Not many teams can afford the players England top teams can. So my point is that it is harder to play against English teams (RVP) than playing against Spanish sides (Villa). While Villa's game is declining RVP's is going up and that's why we should sign him!

how many of them played in the final? van persie? de jong? :rofl1: or at least in the semis? same goes with the euro08, same goes with ballon dor. premier league is just a bunch of medicore fighters, maybe thats why it's considered as 'harder to score' there?


seriously if RVP leads his country to WC and EC win and his club to CL and league victory and scores 20+ in 10 years then we talk again.

it's just amazing how they hype the premier league players. i mean even owen has the ballon dor and :xavi: hasn't :facepalm:
 

Maria

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As I said I'm not denying Vila's goal ratio is better but it's deff not that far away from a player like RVP. The only reason why Villa has alot more goals is b,c of games played. Van Persie has played about half the games villa has played. I will never doubt that villa has been amazing all these years but he's not getting any ever , his numbers actually decreased when he came to Barca. I can't deny that the best players in the world at the moment are in la liga but they are mainly divided between Barca and Madrid making them stronger than the rest of teams and therefore making it easier for the stars in the big 2 to score more goals. While in england the best players in the EPL are scattered among the top 5-6 teams and even the others teams have good enough players to face the other teams. After the Netherlands , Germany and England both provided more players for Holland than any other league. With spain providing only 1 player Van Dervart who today plays in England by the way. Germany provided only German players from the German league . Suarez now plays in England (surprise) why would you name portugal? lol THe EPL also had 2 players in Spain. And one of those (David Silva) Now plays in England.

-Villa has scored 0,5 goals per match, while VP has 0,42, where x=number of goals/number of games played
-Muniain, Borja Valero, Cazorla, Llorente, Javi Martinez, Falcao, Alvarez, Rami, Banega, De Marcos, Diego Alves, Rondon, Diego, Michu, Isco, Jordi Alba, Ander Herrera, Xabi Prieto, Jesus Navas, Adrian..should I keep going?
-after Chelsea-MU, the EPL fanboys kept bragging on about that being the game of the week..go watch Athletic-Espanyol and then come and talk to me about the lack of talented players at the other teams from LL; I try to watch all the 4 leagues and when I judge a player, I do it only based on his talent, not on the league in which he plays(unless that league is in China)
-also Seria A and Bundesliga are more competitive right now than EPL and La Liga
-you presented a statistic of how the players from the 2010 WC where distribueted between the all the major leagues in 2010; I'm sure that in 2 years manny of them have changed teams..so if you want ot discuss of where is Silva now or Forlan you should do it for all the players from that list.
 
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UberNjufer

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Of course the number of goals and assists from Villa is better than Van Persie's because while RVP has played 337 games , David Villa has played 530 games , almost the twice the number of games. Everyone knows that is harder to score in the EPL than scoring in la liga. Unfortunately there is far better players in The EPL than La liga. To give you an idea, The EPL was the league to provide the greater number of players for the world cup. Here's the list: 111 England 139
2 Germany 94
3 Italy 93
4 Spain 74
As you can see Spain was number 4. There is more quaity players (defenders, midfielders, attackers, golies) in the EPL than la Liga. That's why It's the best league in the world. Not many teams can afford the players England top teams can. So my point is that it is harder to play against English teams (RVP) than playing against Spanish sides (Villa). While Villa's game is declining RVP's is going up and that's why we should sign him!
really,Wigan,blackurn,wolves,stoke,aston villa,norwich,swansea,everton,fulham,west brom,qpr are you actually saying that they are better than la liga bottom teams.I watch both leagues and trust me barca would put 7,8 goals against any of those teams with ease
 

Maria

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really,Wigan,blackurn,wolves,stoke,aston villa,norwich,swansea,everton,fulham,west brom,qpr are you actually saying that they are better than la liga bottom teams.I watch both leagues and trust me barca would put 7,8 goals against any of those teams with ease

Hey, don't mess with Swanselona.. ;)
 
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danumber10

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how many of them played in the final? van persie? de jong? :rofl1: or at least in the semis? same goes with the euro08, same goes with ballon dor. premier league is just a bunch of medicore fighters, maybe thats why it's considered as 'harder to score' there?


seriously if RVP leads his country to WC and EC win and his club to CL and league victory and scores 20+ in 10 years then we talk again.

it's just amazing how they hype the premier league players. i mean even owen has the ballon dor and :xavi: hasn't :facepalm:
Tournaments are very unpredictable. Not always the best teams win (Greece 2004) and sometimes the better teams get knocked out. (France 2002 world cup exit). I never denied that the top best players are in la liga (Madrid and barca are above everyone else). What I'm trying to say that It is easier for those top teams to dominate the league and score more goals ( if you think they would own the EPL well then you can't deny they sure are dominating la liga ) Besides Barca and Madrid I don't see any other "Good teams" maybe Valencia? who was crushed by Chelsea?. While in England there are at least 4-5 top teams. Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Man United, Man City, I would even include Liverpool as a good team. In la liga?? Madrid , barca. "seriously if RVP leads his country to WC and EC win and his club to CL and league victory and scores 20+ in 10 years then we talk again" :omg:Ok you Villa is better than Messi according to you? I guess we should not be having a discussion about Messi being one of the best players ever b.c he has to lead his coutry to win World cup and America Cup. Until then let's replace him with villa.:troll:
Also the premier league is becoming more about technique now. Teams like Chelsea, Man U, Man city are implementing the Barca style. They don't play too many long balls anymore and are playing a first touch game with the ball on the ground. They will be the perfect combination of teams in the future. Strong , fast and yet with a lot of technique.
 
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danumber10

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-Villa has scored 0,5 goals per match, while VP has 0,42, where x=number of goals/number of games played
-Muniain, Borja Valero, Cazorla, Llorente, Javi Martinez, Falcao, Alvarez, Rami, Banega, De Marcos, Diego Alves, Rondon, Diego, Michu, Isco, Jordi Alba, Ander Herrera, Xabi Prieto, Jesus Navas, Adrian..should I keep going?
-after Chelsea-MU, the EPL fanboys kept bragging on about that being the game of the week..go watch Athletic-Espanyol and then come and talk to me about the lack of talented players at the other teams from LL; I try to watch all the 4 leagues and when I judge a player, I do it only based on his talent, not on the league in which he plays(unless that league is in China)
-also Seria A and Bundesliga are more competitive right now than EPL and La Liga
-you presented a statistic of how the players from the 2010 WC where distribueted between the all the major leagues in 2010; I'm sure that in 2 years manny of them have changed teams..so if you want ot discuss of where is Silva now or Forlan you should do it for all the players from that list.
I'm not saying there is no talent in la liga what I'm saying is that THE EPL has more top teams that la liga therefore making it harder and more competitive. Barca and Madrid take most of the money from Tv rights. In the EPL money is distributed more equally. more money = more quality signings in the EPL. Most of the money for 2 teams = BARCA and Madrid dominating la liga and not having to sell their stars like Valencia(Juan Mata). It's not HARD TO know why EPL is more competitive and therefore making it harder to beat each other.
 
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danumber10

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really,Wigan,blackurn,wolves,stoke,aston villa,norwich,swansea,everton,fulham,west brom,qpr are you actually saying that they are better than la liga bottom teams.I watch both leagues and trust me barca would put 7,8 goals against any of those teams with ease
No, I mean totenham, arsenal, liverpool, chelsea, man city. There is no way bottom teams in Spain are better than those in England b.c bottom teams in spain don't have the money that bottom teams in England do.( money = signings)
 

barcaboy15

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FIFA World Player of the Year (1991-present)
13 winners from La Liga.
10 from Serie A.
1 each from Premier League, Dutch League and French League.


UEFA Champions League Winners (1991-present)
7 wins for La Liga.
5 from Serie A.
3 from Premier League.


So yeah, the Premier League has all the best players and the best teams.

And, mentioning the World Cup as evidence of Premier League being the best?:lol: Yeah they provided the most players but how many of the 4 top goalscorers were from the Premier League? 2 were from La Liga, 1 from Serie and 1 from Bundesliga...

And how many of the World Cup XI were from the Premier League? 0 if I remember correctly?

And remind me again of the team that one, how many from the Premier League compared to La Liga?
 
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xaviniesta

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lets give him a break, he is obviously born in the world of skysports etc:
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can't expect much from this guy
 
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xaviniesta

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i already imagine his answer to that:

LOL, it's not true.

premier league is more competetive and better. anybody can win anybody...

blabla

FACT



the people there are like zombies. everybody follow blindly the great media they have there. it seems like nobody can think on their own.
 

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