Vitor Roque (loaned to Real Betis)

Messi983

Messi983

Senior Member
Devils said:
How much patience is needed for a player who doesn’t play tho?

I mean this guys has been here nearly 6 months now and has barely featured.

Every single attacker in this team bar Yamal has had long extended periods of just being completely trash this season and this cat can barely find game time.

He’s 7th choice attacker in this team at the moment, and I’m counting Fermin because Fermin is often bought on as a attacking sub over this guy.

How can a 40m 18 year old player be 7th choice attacker and barely get game time?
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Xavi
 
vuji_31

vuji_31

Senior Member
I am 100% sure he will not be in the club in next few years, but we will not loose to much on him.

Doubt he will develop passing, positioning and other ascepts of its game to be important figure.

Maybe he can, but not with being on the bench whole season.

Sell him on loan to some Spain club that can give him fixed minutes.
 
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Porque

Senior Member
It's still early days, and for an u20 striker he had one of the best goal rates in Brazil so he should make it in Europe. Better than Gabigol and in the same category of successes in Europe like Jesus.

The only problem is technically he is not spectacular, and it may be a case of him being a success in Europe but at a more direct side.

I was having a bit of a dig at the City group though, and here are their 3 recent Brazilian signings in order of potential at time of signing.

1. Kayky - 5m - Failed so far. Loaned back to Brazil
2. Metinho - 5m - Failed so far. Loaned to Rotterdam
3. Savinho - 5m - Huge success in Spain. But failed first season loaned to PSV.


So a couple of points. The first is the obvious one, that Savio failed in the weaker Eredivise to make an impact. Had we signed him, at that point in time we would have claimed he was a failure.

The second is the fees. For a club like us it would be better to sign high potential Brazilians (and the three above were not the highest prospects like Vini, Endrick or even Angelo Gabriel) earlier and spread the fee over a few 5-10m mark players at 16 and wait till their 18 to bring over, rather than go big and compete with the elite tier spenders.

From this example above only 1 in 3 worked out, but then with the spread accounted for excluding wages, Savio cost just 15-20m.

So yeah. Plenty of examples of Brazilian players still going for those 5-10m fees and growing into good players in Europe. Matheus Martins, the Brugge striker signed from Brentford and even Luiz Henrique of Betis who was sold back to Brazil at a profit.

Once finances are better to consistently buy, maybe look at this route.
 
serghei

serghei

Senior Member
Tigrinho played like crap most of the times he featured. He has to raise his level in trainings, and when he gets the chance he has to make a difference. Vs Cadiz he was plain bad. This ain't no charity, you deserve it, you play. If not, you don't.
 
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Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
serghei said:
Tigrinho played like crap most of the times he featured. He has to raise his level in trainings, and when he gets the chance he has to make a difference. Vs Cadiz he was plain bad. This ain't no charity, you deserve it, you play. If not, you don't.
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Yeah the combined almost 300 minutes over 13 games he's received. He hasn't even been given 2 consecutive 30 min stints with a functioning midfield and people are writing him off.
 
ZenI

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Behrox said:
Yeah the combined almost 300 minutes over 13 games he's received. He hasn't even been given 2 consecutive 30 min stints with a functioning midfield and people are writing him off.
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Did you even watch some games he played for Paranese? Meh...
 
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