Which CB would you sign for Barça?

[Arachnid]

I see what you did with the list there. . . . . And in as much as i agree with you, I am sorry, but I don't think we will be signing A softie like Hummels as a CB either.

It wasn't actually a post to support the Hummels signing, honestly just saying that if we are going to sign somebody, it's going to be from a slightly poorer club, not from one with twenty times more dough than us.

So yeah, somebody from a club like Dortmund (Subotic, Hummels), Real Sociedad (Inigo Martinez) or Roma (Marquinhos) is possible. Not necessarily the best option, but economically possible. Somebody from City, Chelsea or PSG? Forget about it.

 

[darthvader7888]

It wasn't actually a post to support the Hummels signing, honestly just saying that if we are going to sign somebody, it's going to be from a slightly poorer club, not from one with twenty times more dough than us.

So yeah, somebody from a club like Dortmund (Subotic, Hummels), Real Sociedad (Inigo Martinez) or Roma (Marquinhos) is possible. Not necessarily the best option, but economically possible. Somebody from City, Chelsea or PSG? Forget about it.

Well, I can see us getting someone from PSG's bench, like Sakho (of course, that depends on whether he remains on the bench). Doesn't he have problems with Ancelotti or something? I can see us being able to get someone like that from City, Chelsea or PSG.

As for a starter for City, Chelsea or PSG, like Kompany, forget it. Unless he wants to leave for some reason.

 

[Co0ter]

Honestly I'd go for Kompany, but that's mission impossible! Hummels won't be a good buy. . . . For a lad his size, he plays like a sissy, sorry to say. Subotic is much better IMHO.

And he's really slow. You can't play a high line all game long like we do with slow defenders. It's one of the main reasons why Sergio and Song aren't prefered; among other reasons.

 

[Puyol the wall]

Hummels

My preferences would be Inigo Martinez (cheap, young, great quality), some of the Bilbao defenders such as Laporte, Aurtenexte, or Ramalho (also young, talented, cheap, and quality), or Marquinhos because I am jealous of Madrid for having a young star in Varane

As for the others:
-Sakho has attitude problems
-Hummels is too expensive and Dortmund wouldn't want to sell
-Vertonghen just moved to Spurs who wouldn't want to sell
-Agger loves Liverpool and Skrtel doesn't seem good to me
-Vermaelen is overrated, injury prone, and error prone
-David Luiz is bad defensively and is doing better as a DM than a CB. Seems like another Mascherano except with Puyols hair.
-Don't know enough about Lovren to have a solid opinion.

Implying you prefer to take a chance for next season signing cheap defenders instead of proven one's....our whole season could have been ruined coz of the defending and yet you wanna take a chance

 

[DonAndres]

Since when does cheap mean bad? And since when does expensive necessarily mean good? If you want to read the rest of what I wrote, "quality" also seems to be a word that I used.

Just because none of the defenders I mentioned are media-hyped and well known to people who don't pay attention to smaller clubs, doesn't mean that they are horrible. They are proven, they are good, you just don't know them. Hummels, however, has been thoroughly surrounded by the media so he's the average fans go-to CB option for Barca. He's slow and plays a lot like Pique so I don't understand how that would make a good pairing. Players like Marquinhos or Inigo Martinez however emulate Puyol; being rough, strong, and willing to do the dirty work.

I don't understand how you would feel more secure just because a players price tag is inflated to make them look good. Alba was a pretty damn cheap signing and look how that turned out. Imagine if we had gotten Bale (who was the other rumored signing and happened to cost 40 million). A lot of the best signings in the world happen to be cheaply priced ones because the coaches look into internal quality, not external popularity or price.

 

[Arachnid]

Hummels



Implying you prefer to take a chance for next season signing cheap defenders instead of proven one's....our whole season could have been ruined coz of the defending and yet you wanna take a chance

One thing doesn't imply the other. Piqué came back home for just about 5 mil. That same season, Caceres costed us 17 mil-

 

[darthvader7888]

Since when does cheap mean bad? And since when does expensive necessarily mean good? If you want to read the rest of what I wrote, "quality" also seems to be a word that I used.

Just because none of the defenders I mentioned are media-hyped and well known to people who don't pay attention to smaller clubs, doesn't mean that they are horrible. They are proven, they are good, you just don't know them. Hummels, however, has been thoroughly surrounded by the media so he's the average fans go-to CB option for Barca. He's slow and plays a lot like Pique so I don't understand how that would make a good pairing. Players like Marquinhos or Inigo Martinez however emulate Puyol; being rough, strong, and willing to do the dirty work.

I don't understand how you would feel more secure just because a players price tag is inflated to make them look good. Alba was a pretty damn cheap signing and look how that turned out. Imagine if we had gotten Bale (who was the other rumored signing and happened to cost 40 million). A lot of the best signings in the world happen to be cheaply priced ones because the coaches look into internal quality, not external popularity or price.

I can see why people would want a big signing like Hummels or whoever over someone like Martinez. And tbh, I'm one of those people. Kind of, at least.

However, if Martinez is gonna turn out to be a bargain like Alba, why the hell not. I do hope the club goes for the best option though, and not (necessarily) the cheapest. If a 20-30m defender is a better option than a 10-15m one, the former should be bought. Like I said though, if someone cheap like Martinez is the best option, then the club should definitely get him.

 

[DonAndres]

I can see why people would want a big signing like Hummels or whoever over someone like Martinez. And tbh, I'm one of those people. Kind of, at least.

However, if Martinez is gonna turn out to be a bargain like Alba, why the hell not. I do hope the club looks for the best option though, and not (necessarily) the cheapest. Like I said though, if someone cheap like Martinez is the best option, then the club should definitely get him.

90% of people who would want Hummels haven't even seen Martinez or anyone else play. Big name and big price tag doesn't mean big talent. I'm surprised that some of you don't know this. Torres cost Chelsea 50 million Euros yet Michu cost Swansea a mere 2 million. Which of the two has been better over the past 2 seasons? A lot of the times, people who are more keen on the big signing are only looking at the surface level and not the true overall value of the player. If you actually watched Martinez then you would have no problem in signing him.

 

[Irish_Cules]

90% of people who would want Hummels haven't even seen Martinez or anyone else play. Big name and big price tag doesn't mean big talent. I'm surprised that some of you don't know this. Torres cost Chelsea 50 million Euros yet Michu cost Swansea a mere 2 million. Which of the two has been better over the past 2 seasons? A lot of the times, people who are more keen on the big signing are only looking at the surface level and not the true overall value of the player. If you actually watched Martinez then you would have no problem in signing him.

I honestly think a lot of people who are asking for Hummels have seen very little of him as well. They see the hype about him online and watch youtube videos and jump on the bandwagon. I admit that I haven't see a lot of him, only the odd Germany and Dortmund game, so I refrain from giving a definitive opinion about him.

 

[darthvader7888]

90% of people who would want Hummels haven't even seen Martinez or anyone else play. Big name and big price tag doesn't mean big talent. I'm surprised that some of you don't know this. Torres cost Chelsea 50 million Euros yet Michu cost Swansea a mere 2 million. Which of the two has been better over the past 2 seasons? A lot of the times, people who are more keen on the big signing are only looking at the surface level and not the true overall value of the player. If you actually watched Martinez then you would have no problem in signing him.

I didn't say Hummels is the best option. I'm just saying that if a big name (be it Hummels or whoever) is a better option than Martinez, he should be bought despite the higher price. Of course, if Martinez is better than the big name, he should definitely be bought.

The club should go for the best option, not (necessarily) the cheapest. For example, out of the rumored targets, Kompany would easily be my first choice. He's expensive, but he's the best player out of the rumored targets and he would be the best choice IMO. Of course, there's next to no chance of it happening and the rumors are most likely BS. I think you get my point though.

Don't get me wrong, I am kinda liking what I've heard about Martinez (especially from you ). And if the best option is a cheap one (as was the case with Alba), then that's awesome. That won't always be the case though.

 

[0n0mat0p0eia]

I think ive came round to the idea of Martinez and Amorebieta.

Amorebieta is older at 28, and maybe more experienced, and he's 1.92metres, but hes powerful and a good header of the ball.

Martinez is only 21 (the same age roughly as Bartra/Muniesa but with 1st team experience) and 1.81metres. He's powerful and built like Puyol.

We might be able to buy both of these players AND leave money for Ter Stegen in goal just using our transfer budget.

We would then have 3 CBs when Puyol retires, and have Bartra/Muniesa perhaps to break through, or to be sold for funds.

No language problems, no homesickness, no 'can he adapt' etc etc.

(IMO, Neymar would be far too much of a gamble for us; although if we sold some of the fringe/deadwood players we could free up the funds and wages neccessary)

 

[Deco 20]

I think ive came round to the idea of Martinez and Amorebieta.

Amorebieta is older at 28, and maybe more experienced, and he's 1.92metres, but hes powerful and a good header of the ball.

Martinez is only 21 (the same age roughly as Bartra/Muniesa but with 1st team experience) and 1.81metres. He's powerful and built like Puyol.

We might be able to buy both of these players AND leave money for Ter Stegen in goal just using our transfer budget.

Sadly both, well Amorebieta in particular, are very prone to being sent off

 

[raskolnikov]

So who are good powerfull fast central defenders that we can realistically get?

 

[0n0mat0p0eia]

Sadly both, well Amorebieta in particular, are very prone to being sent off

True, especially in Amorebieta's case, but he'd come for nothing as he's out of contract in the summer (at least i think he is).

Martinez only has 7 yellows this season - not too naughty.

As Barca play a different style of football, perhaps the discipline wont be a problem.

Whatever, if we can get 2 quality CBs (one young who could be with us for some time) and a Keeper for our budget this year, that would be superb, IMO

 

[Irish_Cules]

I think I'm going to post in this every single day and repeat how important it is we make the right sigining(s) this summer in this position. It's actually an embarrassment how much we're struggling at centre back for such a big club.