Which "number 8" is better? Kaka or Iniesta

[Evil]

Don't know what The Fallen is on about, Messi is by far the best dribbler in the world, no one can stick the ball to their feet like he does, Iniesta comes second, that's just my opinion.

 

[No Soy Galáctico]

Stupid poll.

I have a better one:

Who is the better number 10?

A) Wayne Rooney
B) William Gallas

fingers on your button. Vote now.

 

[messiniesta]

Gallas by far, no question, especially because of his bold haircuts. I find him irresistibly cute when he looks so focused on chewing gum, oblivious of the game going on around him. And I've always had a thing for black men

 

[Emily]

Iniesta all the way

 

[antonnn]

I dnt understand wht ur tryin to imply here...
U think Iniesta is the better player becoz he dribbles through players and not lose the ball or tht hez a better player overall coz if its the latter i want u to tell me in wht other aspects is he ahead of Leo?..

1. Leo is the better dribbler...and by sayin he dribbles past 3/4 players and often loses it is an exaggeration...besides how many barca games did u watch last season?...is ur opinion based on those CL semi & finals...having watched pretty much every barca game i like to think i know better abt our players...Iniesta doesnt attract as many defenders as leo or get marked like him...i like to see Andrés do wht he does wen the same gets applied to him & on a consistent basis....until thn Leo>Iniesta
2. Iniesta is the better passer of the ball...But Leo is not too far behind and considerin hez a good few years younger(3 years) he ll definitely improve in this regard...
3. Leo's Ball control, vision, awareness, footballing intelligence is as good if not better thn Andrés
4. Goal Scoring Ability ...(u have already touched on this aspect so i wont comment)
5. X factor- the ability to create things out of nothing single handedly – a Consistent Match winner - Give me Leo anyday .

Leo has had a better season thn every1else in worldfootball…a major contributor in Barca's treble..
Leo IS the current Best Player in the World. (those who think otherwise are either biased or havnt watched much of Barca last season)

This is my opinion on what you've said.

1. Messi has better dribbling ability but Iniesta is not far off and he's a lot smarter dribbler, he loses the ball about 600 times less than Messi. What's the point of being such a good dribbler if you try too hard? It's better to be a smart dribbler, Iniesta is much harder to disposses than Messi.

2. Yes, Iniesta is a better passer. It doesn't matter if Messi is going to be as good or better in the future, the fact is right now Iniesta is better, and that's that.

3. I disagree with you here. I think right now Iniesta is better than Messi in all those aspects(not by a lot, but still better, most likely due to more experience) aside from ball control.

4. Nothing needs to be said here, Messi is the better finisher clearly.

5. Iniesta is a matchwinner, he got you into the final with your only shot on target all game. He also assisted the vital first goal in the final with a very good run and pass. He can make something out of nothing too. I'm not saying Messi can't, but Iniesta has that x-factor too, look at how Spain missed him in the Confederations Cup, if he was fit and playing they'd probably have made the final at least. He's more of a provider than a goalscorer, so he's a matchwinner in a different way.

And really you can't call me biased in this situation, Argentina is my favourite team, and Messi is one of my favourite players, I'm just giving my honest opinion, I think Iniesta is the best player in the world right now, and Messi a close 2nd.

 

[BlaugranaGirl]

I don't think many people on here are gonna vote for Kaka.

 

[No Soy Galáctico]

I did, more out of respect to the man. The newest madridista doesnt stand much of a chance on a barca forum, eh?

 

[maz]

I dont think its a stupid poll. Seeing them both next season in la liga is going to be great...they are definitely two point men for their respective teams, and their attributes are similar: quick with the ball, can change a game with one move, are respected by fellow footballers.

 

[No Soy Galáctico]

Wow, now you put it like that Maz, they're almost the same man.

Nope, not convinced. They neither will nor have a similar role for their teams, past or present. The biggest thing in common they have is quite ridiculously their shirt number. Had he not been given the number 8 shirt, this topic would not exist. So there.

 

[zanela]

1.Again by saying Iniesta loses the ball about 600 times less than Messi is exaggeration and nonsensical. Cules who watch both players week in week out know better...Yes, leo does lose the ball more thn Iniesta but not in the same frequency as ur suggesting while there are factors to be considered here which i've mentioned in the 1st pt in my previous post which u seem to 've ignored.

3. I disagree...Leo is criminally underrated in these aspects...he is as good if not better thn Iniesta.

5. I knew u wud bring up tht chelsea goal. Hence i mentioned the word consistent match winner...Getafe(A), Racing(A), Osasuna(A), Shakhtar Donetsk(A),Athletico Madrid (A -Copa), Mallorca (A-Copa) -sme of the games tht Messi was a match winner for us...And if it was Iniesta who assisted the first goal in rome thn it was Messi who assisted for the equaliser at Santiago Bernabéu wit a gr8 pass to henry (another eg. which demonstartes his gr8 passing ability)...1 vital Assist and 2 goals in the game - a game so important tht a loss there wud 've fucked up our entire season including CL and Copa final....Also, u say Iniesta is more of a provider...Lets see Messi's 38 Assists to Iniesta's 24 Assists in their Barca career till now(Leo havin played fewer games thn Iniesta & been more injured thn the latter). Leo also contributes to the build up play as much as Iniesta and Xavi. So i'd say Messi is as much a provider as he is a goalscorer...So hez 2 in 1

I ll get Iniesta's haircut if he ends up winning the Ballon d'Or and FIFA Wpoty and post my pics on this forum for every1 to see :tongue:

 

[antonnn]

1.Again by saying Iniesta loses the ball about 600 times less than Messi is exaggeration and nonsensical. Cules who watch both players week in week out know better...Yes, leo does lose the ball more thn Iniesta but not in the same frequency as ur suggesting while there are factors to be considered here which i've mentioned in the 1st pt in my previous post which u seem to 've ignored.

3. I disagree...Leo is criminally underrated in these aspects...he is as good if not better thn Iniesta.

5. I knew u wud bring up tht chelsea goal. Hence i mentioned the word consistent match winner...Getafe(A), Racing(A), Osasuna(A), Shakhtar Donetsk(A),Athletico Madrid (A -Copa), Mallorca (A-Copa) -sme of the games tht Messi was a match winner for us...And if it was Iniesta who assisted the first goal in rome thn it was Messi who assisted for the equaliser at Santiago Bernabéu wit a gr8 pass to henry (another eg. which demonstartes his gr8 passing ability)...1 vital Assist and 2 goals in the game - a game so important tht a loss there wud 've fucked up our entire season including CL and Copa final....Also, u say Iniesta is more of a provider...Lets see Messi's 38 Assists to Iniesta's 24 Assists in their Barca career till now(Leo havin played fewer games thn Iniesta & been more injured thn the latter). Leo also contributes to the build up play as much as Iniesta and Xavi. So i'd say Messi is as much a provider as he is a goalscorer...So hez 2 in 1

I ll get Iniesta's haircut if he ends up winning the Ballon d'Or and FIFA Wpoty and post my pics on this forum for every1 to see :tongue:

1. Of course I'm exaggerating, it's called 'exaggerating to clarify'.

3. Don't worry, I'm not saying Messi is bad at these things, I just think Iniesta is a little better, and it's more down to experience than purely being a better footballer.

5. And with this, I never said Iniesta was a better matchwinner than Messi, I'm just saying he is a matchwinner too!

Messi is a bigger name, a better dribbler and scores more goals, he'll win an award over Iniesta 10 times out of 10! It's always the good goalscoring dribblers who win the awards more often than not in recent years. Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Kaka to name a few!

 

[maz]

Wow, now you put it like that Maz, they're almost the same man.

Nope, not convinced. They neither will nor have a similar role for their teams, past or present. The biggest thing in common they have is quite ridiculously their shirt number. Had he not been given the number 8 shirt, this topic would not exist. So there.

But they do have the same number. So....


there.

Although then again, iniesta does have a smiley and kaká doesnt. Thats got to work in the fuentealbillan's favour.

 

[AnfieldEd]

I agree with everything Anton has said in this thread basically

 

[Beast]

I agree with everything Anton has said in this thread basically

and that's when you really should be worried about yourself

 

[zanela]

Messi is a bigger name, a better dribbler and scores and assists more goals, he'll win an award over Iniesta 10 times out of 10! It's always the good goalscoring dribblers who win the awards more often than not in recent years. Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Kaka to name a few!

Fixed

With Leo he scores as well as assists...& i'd take such a player over Iniesta, Ronaldo, etc.