Who is best striker in the world ?

[antonnn]

You have to see more of Dzeko Hamzah. He is amazing.

Yeah but you can't vote him as the best after 1 good season in Germany. He may have what it takes to succeed in a big league but he actually has to prove it consistently, he's only come into the spotlight recently and cannot truly be called one of the best yet.

 

[Aasim]

Dzeko is quality. Has everything tbh. He needs to stay in Germany though for a couple more years. I dont think he should be rushed into a big club just yet.

 

[Interista]

LOL, I wonder why you picked Ibra, hmm *Looks at name of memeber and avatar*...Nope still don't know why. Anyway...

Tbh your argument of haven't won everything is pretty shocking exspecially with Villa, if he was with a top club and it's not like no one wants him (which if they did, your argument would be valid) but becuase big clubs do/did want him it kinda cancels it out becuase he would of won plenty, and it's not his fault that Valencia are saying no to anyone who hasn't put in a monumental amount of money for him.

Actually, it wasn't an argument against Villa I made against Villa, because I think he's brilliant, but one that people could make if they wanted to discredit him. That was the point of my post. But let's look at your argument: So your basically saying that if Villa was playing for a top club he would of won plenty, yes? Then I could say if Ibra was playing for a top contender for Cl, he would of scored plenty in knockoutstages because he'd get a lot more chances at it. So going by your logic, your own "knockoutstage" argument is invalid.

Anyways, I'm not saying he shouldn't of scored one by now, because it really is mindboggling, but it's too easy of a way to discredit him, especially considering he's achieved two times as much as any other player on that list, excluding Eto'o.

BUT PERSONALLY I think he has to keep it up for at least the rest of this season before he can be talked about in the same breath as villa and drogba, who are by far and away the best strikers in the world right now. if he can do that, well damn, then we'll really be in business. but it's still only an if.

First off, thx for saying my post made sense. The ony problem I have with your post is that you make it sound as if Ibra's been inconsistent his whole career except for last season, which is false. It is true that he wasn't as consistent a scorer in previous seasons, because he was more of a second striker, but playwise he has been consistent for the last 5-6 years, excluding his last six months with Juventus. Also I can't understand how you could rate Drogba ahead of Ibra. I can see people thinking Villa is the better striker as he's extremely skilled, maybe not the most complete, but scores a ton of goals, but Drogba? He's very inconsistent. He's in great form now, yes, but look at his stats for the last few years.

2007–08 32 15
2008–09 42 14
2009–10 11 8

He had that great season in 06/07 but has since then been quite inconsistent. He's done great in Cl though.

Compare that to Ibra's for the last few years.

2007–08 34 22
2008–09 46 29
2009–10 10 8

I'm pretty sure Ibra's assist stats are better too.

You can say that Drogba is better, but it's simply wrong to say that Ibra needs to keep this up for a full season to be at the same level as Drogba, when in fact it should be the other way around.

Anyways, last post I make in this thread. We'll find out who the best is by the end of the season.

 

[Sultan]

He had that great season in 06/07 but has since then been quite inconsistent. He's done great in Cl though.

great chunk of credit for that year goes to Shevchenko IMHO. his presence gave drogba lots of freedom.

 

[Necro Spaaw]

He doesn't perform in BIG matches.









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you have NO idea how much I hate posts like this..

I follow Interista here..

 

[Valon]

Liridon Hasani! He's the Inzaghi of Kosovos football. But Inzaghi can run, he can't. I mean even a turtle is faster but still this guy scores like there's no tomorrow.

 

[ChuckaOwns]

Actually, it wasn't an argument against Villa I made against Villa, because I think he's brilliant, but one that people could make if they wanted to discredit him. That was the point of my post. But let's look at your argument: So your basically saying that if Villa was playing for a top club he would of won plenty, yes? Then I could say if Ibra was playing for a top contender for Cl, he would of scored plenty in knockoutstages because he'd get a lot more chances at it. So going by your logic, your own "knockoutstage" argument is invalid.

Anyways, I'm not saying he shouldn't of scored one by now, because it really is mindboggling, but it's too easy of a way to discredit him, especially considering he's achieved two times as much as any other player on that list, excluding Eto'o.

Firstly, he has had plenty of chances, with a better team? Inter may have not been putting the world in lights but they were good enough, so yes as you said he should have scored by now, and no, that does not come in line with my argument becasue what ibrahimovich does in the knockout stages he controls, Villa doesn't control how much Valencia want for him.

Also achieved more on that list? they won like 4 league titles with basically no competition.

 

[Interista]

Also achieved more on that list? they won like 4 league titles with basically no competition.

Hw wins wherever he goes, and in majority of those wins he was the best player for his team. He brought the scudetto to Inter three years in a row, after a 17 year long dryspell. If Torres did that for Liverpool the retarded English media would probably consider him the greatest striker of all time.

It's absolutely ridiculous to claim we had no competition when in 06/07 our competition was the eventual European Champions. Granted it was a strange season due to the points penalties. In 07/08 the Serie A went down to the final matchday, Ibra came back from injury, scored two goals, and the rest is history. Last season, we dominated from start to finish with Juve and Milan keeping a good five points behind us at all times, but maybe they should of tried to close the gap in the direct enounters with us?

It's easy to say we had no competition. I can say Man United had no competition for the last three years. Or Chelsea during their run of dominance. Or Barcelona last season, and during the Dinho years. It doesn't take anything away from the players who actually go out and win the titles. Facts remain. The rest is just empty talk.

 

[Super Pippo]

Ibra ended your "17 year long dryspell"? No player even kicked a ball to do that.

 

[Interista]

Ok, correction: He won Inter our first scudetto "on the pitch" in 17 years. As for the scudetto awarded by the courts: The opposition cheated, and we got awarded it. What are we gonna do, not accept it?

 

[Super Pippo]

Of course they accepted it, they orchestrated the whole affair.

As for the other years, Ibra was the best player in a very mediocre team. A team that was champions in name only, certainly not by merit. Certainly not achievements to back a claim for best in the world.

 

[Interista]

Of course they accepted it, they orchestrated the whole affair.

Wearing a tiinfoil hat by any chance? I'm not getting in to that. I've owned so many nuts over the years I kind of got tired of it. If it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, quacks like a duck, and if the duck's lawyer admits it's a duck, then hello: welcome to reality, it's a muthafucking duck.

As for the other years, Ibra was the best player in a very mediocre team. A team that was champions in name only, certainly not by merit. Certainly not achievements to back a claim for best in the world.

You're almost contradicting yourself. You said he was the best player in a very medioce team, which might be true, but if the team was mediocre and they won the Serie A, and he was the best player, then that says something about him, regardless of what the competition was like.

Yeah, well achievements to back a claim for "best in the World" add up. It's not just about what he's won, it's about his stats, his ability to do things that no other striker come close to, and most importantly his consistency. Looking past all that because he hasn't scored in the knockoutstges is quite frankly ridiculous, especially when directly comparing to the other players on that list. Anyways, whatever dude.

 

[Super Pippo]

Actually I'd be quite interested to hear how you would justify how an investigation into corruption that excluded Inter can possibly decide whether they are innocent, or atleast enough to warrent the title of victim and therefore deserve the championship. A great deal of people in Italia would like to hear that. And while your at it, I'd also like to hear the justification for the judge of the whole affair being a former Inter board member, and the provider of the "evidence" he made that judgement on, being a company that owned shares in Inter. If you can justify that I can assure you, you will be a very wealthy man, as a great deal many people have waited a long time to hear it.

The Serie A title has been worth nothing in the recent seasons. Ibra being in the "winning" team of it doesn't impress many.

 

[Interista]

The Serie A title has been worth nothing in the recent seasons. Ibra being in the "winning" team of it doesn't impress many.

Coming from a follower of Serie A that's quite shocking. You're either a buffon or you haven't watched Inter much duinng his three years there. Frankly it doesn't matter if he won the titles or not, even without the titles he was the undisputed king of calcio, but like I said: Whatever dude. We'll see how he'll perform at Barca.

Actually I'd be quite interested to hear how you would justify how an investigation into corruption that excluded Inter can possibly decide whether they are innocent, or atleast enough to warrent the title of victim and therefore deserve the championship. A great deal of people in Italia would like to hear that. And while your at it I'd also like to hear the justification for the judge of the whole affair being a former Inter board member, and the provider of the "evidence" he made that judgement being a company that owned shares in Inter. If you can justify that I can assure you you will be a very wealthy man, as a great deal many people have waited a long time to hear it.

Yes, Simple. You see, my friend, in society we don't accuse people of crimes when there is no evidence of it. There's no point. What we do is that we gather evidence, present it to a judge and let him decide whether or not it's credible enough to go to court. Needless to say, there was no evidence against Inter, but ton against Juventus and Milan.

Moratti was tired of being stolen from, had Telecom Italia wiretap the thieves and presented the evidence to a judge. Then what happened was that before the thieves had even gotten their verdict they begged, sniveled and pleaded to be sent to Serie B, instead of Serie C, and due to Italy being in gracious mood after the World Cup, they got what they wanted. Simple enough?

 

[AnfieldEd]

Who let the idiots out of the asylum.

Anyone thinking Forlan is better than Torres is an IDIOT.

I thank you