Who was the greatest?

Who was the greatest?

  • Pele

    Votes: 8 24.2%
  • Maradona

    Votes: 25 75.8%

  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .

barSELOna

Member
Where is Cruyff ?
Maybe Cruyff were from South America , he 'd be in this pool
for me Cruyff then Maradona then Pele but Messi will be the best
Actually comparison between them is not right
 

antonnn

Blue Blooded Aussie
Messi can definately become greater than Maradona in terms of trophies and success, but I still believe Maradona was more natural gifted a footballer than Messi will be. I'd like to see Messi prove me wrong though.
 

sammy

Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite
Yeapp, me too, i hope messi will prove that you're wrong. But at this point, maradona is still the best. He and van basten were my childhood idol. He can do anything with the ball. Like he could talk to the ball and command it to do what ever he wanted to do. As i said before, what zidane could done to the ball, diego could done it with an orange :D
 

Metaphysical

Bomb Dropper
pele

maradona

garrincha

di stefano

cruyff

you can take the greatest from any one of one of those five and have a legit case for it, IMO.
 

Beast

The Observer
Very, very, poor assessment of Pele. Why would he move to Europe? Sounds like some Premiership biased fans we have in today`s football that were hailing the Premiership as a NBA of world football and where they state if a player hasn`t scored vs. Premiership opposition, he`s really not the best. Same thing they were saying about Messi "He is yet to score vs. Premierhip opposition". Like anyone outside the island gave a feck.
Why would have Pele moved to Europe? Those were the different times and Brazil players weren`t moving to Europe very often.
One other think to consider is the Brazil football association regulations. Due to some laws Santos was able to keep Pele in Brazil. Tbh., I don`t know enough about the whole thing and it doeasn`t mean he would move anyway but it certainly could be taken into account.

he was prevented from moving to Europe under the Brazilian dictatorship , considered a national treasure
still Maradona for me is the best

i pick diego by a small margin.

if maradona gave sweet FA about his image, picking him would'nt cause to much controversy.

maradona played in a faster era with plenty of ruthless tackling, compared to the slower tempo of pele's time (though i believe pele would have excelled in any era, class after all is permanent). Also, i dont put that much stock in, the "pele has 3 world cups over diego's 1" argument. team accomplishments imo, is'nt the be all end all in these discussions. why dont we use individual merits as the barometer? it's those kinds of argument that make players like le tissier get overlooked in the grand scheme of things, despite their undeniable quality.

also did pele really play that much of a part in brazils '58 triumph? dont think so. Pele played in a brazil squad burgeoning with supreme talent (jairzinho, tostao etc.....). maradona played with good players as well (guys like burruchaga and valdano had good tournaments too). would argentina have won the '86 tournament without diego? unlikely. would brazil have won '70 without pele? wuite possible. The quality of pele's squad should not be held against him (circumstances afterall), but since you're already splitting hairs in regards to the case of "diego vs. pele", that fact should certainly be taken into account.

at club level look at the disparity between diego and pele. Pele played in the brazilian championship. diego played in Serie A, which at the time was THE gold standard of club football (zico in udinese, platini's juventus, rummenige at inter, the milan dream team of van basten-gullit-rijkard-maldini-baresi-costacurta). napoli won nothing before him and won nothing after him; which is the reason he's god made flesh for those people.

as i said, both are THE GREATEST. You'd be splitting hairs when debating the issue. but it's my opinion that diego has the (slight)edge.

excellent post :beer2:
 

Fourteen

Monster Masch
Very true, it's probably the main thing to split them apart, but fuck them both, Mohammed Ali is the greatest.
 

antonnn

Blue Blooded Aussie
The Napoli and coke factor is what makes Diego the best IMO. Dragging a team who never won shit to Serie A titles and a UEFA Cup while being dragged down by cocaine? Fucking. Legend.
 

Hydro2oo9

New member
Very true, it's probably the main thing to split them apart, but fuck them both, Mohammed Ali is the greatest.

Best Heavyweight: Joe Louis
Best pound for pound: Sugar Ray Robinson



Anyway, Maradona for me, he was in a class of his own. Himself and Pele are different players though, from different eras and played different positions.
 

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