World Cup 2022

Porque

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[MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION]

I think the Qataris have a vested interest in having the stars of PSG competing for the trophy to show their surpremecy. So Messi, Neymar and Mbappe led teams across the Semi's

Would be funny if Morocco got a few favourable decisions too now saying that.
 

BBZ8800

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[MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION]

I think the Qataris have a vested interest in having the stars of PSG competing for the trophy to show their surpremecy. So Messi, Neymar and Mbappe led teams across the Semi's

Would be funny if Morocco got a few favourable decisions too now saying that.

Well, Qatar is a Muslim country and Muslim teams usually aren't on top.
Now we have Morocco.

A few Moroccan players said: this win is for all Muslims.

So, imo, Morocco is not a small country in this case.

Brazil = famous country + Neymar&Qatari connection
Argentina = famous country + Messi's final episode + Messi&Cr7 rivalry + Messi&Qatar connections
France = leaders of Europe + Psg/Qatar connections + Platini&Qatar corruption connections + they even declined a rainbow armband, so they probably "know more" that Fifa and Qatar are on their side
England = leaders of Europe but with less connections with Qatar than France. Their media is heavily against Qatar + they wanted rainbow armbands

In short:
Argentina-Netherlands:
- Argentina has Messi-Psg-Qatar connection
- Dutch has nothing + they wanted rainbow armbands
= refs will either be 50:50 or more likely leaned towards Messi and Argies

Brazil-Croatia
- similar to Argies, Brazil are a big nation and Neymar is connected to Qatar
- Croatia is a poor nobody
= expect refs favoring Brazil

France-England
- France has Psg/Qatar in the heart of their country, connection is strong
- Platini gave WC to Qatar
- England are a big country, but against Qatar and with no connections
= expect refs to help to France, if needed

Portugal-Spain
- Portugal has Cr7
- he brings fans, views, sponsors
- and a possible epic Messi vs Cr7 final
- Morocco, on the other hand, the only North Africa-East Asia country left (a host is from that part of the world)
- plus the only Muslim country left
= match will be probably be 50:50
= both sides have reasons to be protected by refs

So, in the toughest position are: Netherlands, Croatia, England
 

Andresito

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Staff member
As much as we'd like to believe it, I don't think it's easy for the Qataris or FIFA or whatever to influence refs. How would they do it? Can't order the refs to favour one side, can't pay them either. Or they can, but it would come out sooner or later because of so many people involved (ref + assistants, in multiple teams of refs). Would need 30+ professionals to keep their mouths shut, and that's only during this WC.

Subconciously they could give a pen to Neymar rather than to Kramaric. But for example Morocco to get unfairly favoured against Portugal by an Argentinean ref is unlikely, well unless the guy hates CR lol.
 

Zidane82

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This guy is such a Diva

🚨 Cristiano Ronaldo did not train with Portugal's squad players today and instead insisted on joining the starters for a gym recovery session.

✍️ [MENTION=8305]Marc[/MENTION]a
 

Horatio

You're welcome
This guy is such a Diva

�� Cristiano Ronaldo did not train with Portugal's squad players today and instead insisted on joining the starters for a gym recovery session.

✍️ [MENTION=8305]Marc[/MENTION]a

Wasn't this the day before yesterday? Are you posting news in a delayed fashion or has he done it again?
 

Porque

Senior Member
Well the Morocco reference is because Achraf Hakimi is their "star" player. Another PSG starter.

I don't think it was/is planned to put a Muslim nation in the semi, but now they are in the quarter who knows what happens. VAR could influence a penalty if the game isn't a blowout.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
As much as we'd like to believe it, I don't think it's easy for the Qataris or FIFA or whatever to influence refs. How would they do it? Can't order the refs to favour one side, can't pay them either. Or they can, but it would come out sooner or later because of so many people involved (ref + assistants, in multiple teams of refs). Would need 30+ professionals to keep their mouths shut, and that's only during this WC.

Subconciously they could give a pen to Neymar rather than to Kramaric. But for example Morocco to get unfairly favoured against Portugal by an Argentinean ref is unlikely, well unless the guy hates CR lol.

How would they do it?
How did they give a WC to Qatar in the first place?

Or, look at Barca. Neymar's transfer. So many people involved, shady business involving 10-20 or more people.
Juventus, shady business regarding wages, every single player involved.

In Croatia, do you remember that the mafia dude Zdravko Mamic (Joan has his avatar, iirc) controlled both Dinamo Zagreb and NT team.
He was giving huge wages to youth players, securing them place in the NT, and then if they make it, they needed to give him 50% of their wages till the end of their career.
Modric, Kovacic, Lovren, Eduardo da silva, all had shady deals with Mamic and cheated on taxes, Modric almost ended in a jail before 2018'.

I mean, Messi's deal with Psg is probably a shady deal, everything regarding Psg and City is a shady deal, everything regarding Platini and Infantino is shady.
In Real life, the whole crypto world is a giant ponzi scheme and a huge scam, yet billions of people were involved for years and it was all allowed.
Yet, you think that it is a problem to have "a few of your refs" who knows what they have to do with a soft pen in the 70th minute for Brazil or France?

I don't know if you remember a WC final in 2018' France-Croatia.
You don't even need a team of 5 cheaters for that, only 1 main ref is enough.
At 0:0, Brozovic has barely touched Griezmann at the edge of a box: soft free kick: 1:0 for France.
Perisic equalized for 1:1 with a banger from the edge of a box.
What happens next? An unintended handball in Croatian box and a penalty.
As I have wrote, in every match, you will have at least situation in the box where you can give a soft pen: handball, contact during corners, one contact/tackle during dribbles over 90 minutes.
If you want to, you can always "invent" a pen. And you can always say: well, there was a contact because: there is always some contact.

In Croatia, it is a known thing that Dinamo Zagreb has it's set of refs.
They are on a payroll of Mamic, they get shit ton of money and they call a soft pen here and there if Dinamo needs it.
How does it work (rigging matches for dummies):
Well, you let the match to be played in a normal way.
If Dinamo can win it in a normal way 2:0' or 3:0, you DON'T interfere.
You interfere ONLY if the match is very important/title decider and if Dinamo is losing 0:1 or if it is 0:0 in the 80th minute.
Then you get soft pens our of any contact in the box.

The same was known for Juve in the early 00s.
Whenever it was 0:0 in the 85th minute, it came "Juve time" with +6 minutes injury time and a late soft pen.

Here is an example of one soft pen out of nowhere for Dinamo. But check the score, it ONLY happens in late minutes and if the score is 0:0 or 0:1. You don't need refs if the game is won in a normal way:

Now apply the same basic rigging for dummies on WC matches, for example already mentioned Brazil (hosts) - Croatia from 2014.
Refs started to interfere ONLY in the last 70 matches since Brazil needed their help:

Regarding Barca, in La Liga Real is a political club and refs are against Barca. We all know that.
But in a CL, Real and Barca are a tier no1.
Now, try to remember some matches in the last 15 years when refs made calls against Barca/Real against smaller teams like Donetsk, Plzen and similar.
Have you ever seen a case that a ref awarded 2 pens for Plzen at Camp Nou out of nowhere? No way.
But have you seen 10s of soft pens of Cr7, Neymar, Messi and similar? Of course.

Money, money, money.
And tiers.
You just have to ask yourself who is in which tier in a certain competition and who is currently an NT team/club/player of the highest FIFA/UEFA interest.

Also, can anyone found a match where France was robbed in a newer history since Platini was FIFA's president?
For example, a famous 2009' match between Ireland and France, a final round of KO matches for a qualifying to a WC 2010.
In the first match it was 1:0 to France, in the 2nd it was 0:1 for Ireland and then in the extra time, France scored this, lol:

Again, how come that these mistakes in key matches always favor Brazil, France, England, Argentina.
And it almost never happens against them.

What a shock that in this world where everything is staged, rigged, corrupted, influenced by politics, money and interests = even football is equally as rigged on the highest level.
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
How would they do it?
How did they give a WC to Qatar in the first place?

I think there's a difference between crooked politicians and professional athletes and refs. Not saying athletes are full of morality but it's hard to alter your performance (while being nervous even without being bought) and rig a game when the whole world is watching.

You talk about big teams getting easy calls, but that I already mentioned is a subconscious thing, that big teams are more in favor of getting a soft pen or freekick, like when Busquets goes down when he's about to lose the ball, it's easy to blow the whistle.

I'm just having a hard time seeing how it happens in reality. Some politician goes to meet the ref, tells him "we want this team to win, you'll be compensated for it"? Shit like that is hard to hide and very illegal. Crooks can crook inbetween them, like Qatar and FIFA, but when you involve some random "nice" guy the risk increases hugely. Compared to the risk, Qatar and FIFA haven't actually gotten anything to gain. Sure it would be a spectacle to have Messi vs Ronaldo final, but so would Brazil vs France.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
BBZ been spouting same nonsense for years.

A few mins into this World Cup he was claiming corruption for Ecuador goal... which was shown to be correct decision.

Look at the referee decisions not given for Barca this year... yet there is this idea UEFA have control over them and UEFA in fact want to see likes of Barca win to 'keep club alive'.

In BBZ world UEFA fixed the golden boy award to 'keep club alive' yet forgot to tell the referees of this plan in CL and forgot to tell the team making the draw for EL where the two biggets clubs meet immediately.

It doesnt happen and there is not some UEFA/FIFA wide plot to fix games through referees. It is absolute garbage as usual.

Terrible decisions in favour of big clubs/countries are not evidence of organisational cheating with instruction from the top..it is evidence of terrible decisions.. which impact all teams at all levels.
 

Daniele

Member
predictions? I sincerely hope that argentina win but in my opinion both matches will end after regulation time and Holland and Brazil will go through
 

bismp

Well-known member
I have a bad feeling too, but got to believe in the GOAT.

If you think about it, this is his last appearance at the biggest stage, his curtain call. Maybe he has something left for us.
 

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