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JamDav1982

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They develop, but not fast enough to challenge for big titles. They also develop better if they have better players to play next to. Hence the need of money. They need to develop winning titles. It's essential.

Not gonna lie, if we win the title it's a big big hit by the club. Gonna help this core get used to winning.

Nah.. the likes of Pedri are top midfielders and 'developement' is an excuse even if can get better.

There is no chance Barca need 400m to compete with Real. That is pure fantasy.

Also if 'experience' is the argument I can assure you Barca have more CL winners and experience than likes of Arsenal.
 

serghei

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Nah.. the likes of Pedri are top midfielders and 'developement' is an excuse even if can get better.

There is no chance Barca need 400m to compete with Real. That is pure fantasy.

A shit Real? No. Talking about making the step from elite in Spain to elite in Europe.
 

serghei

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You claimd Real are elite all season and favs for CL.

Changed that now?

Now Real are 'shit' to suit your point.

Usual.

I also said Madrid haven't won 2 back to back titles since 2008, and that they can have dips in league form.

The team has been doing a good job exploiting that by getting hard fought wins, even if not pretty at times.
 

JamDav1982

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Haha fuck me. Peak Serghie.

Argue all season about how elite Real are as favs for CL and Barca need hundreds of millions to compete.

Then decide Real are 'shit' when Barca ahead of them in league.

Mental gymnastics at its finest.

You claimed Barca need hundreds of millions more to spend to compete with 'elite' such as Real.. now they are 'shit'.

Still think Spurs are tiers above Barca also and likes of Wan Bissaka better RB than Kounde aye?
 

serghei

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Haha fuck me. Peak Serghie.

Argue all season about how elite Real are as favs for CL and Barca need hundreds of millions to compete.

Then decide Real are 'shit' when Barca ahead of them in league.

Mental gymnastics at its finest.

No, just a bit more nuance in my arguments than you're typically used to.
 

JamDav1982

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No, just a bit more nuance in my arguments than you're typically used to.

Haha the usual.. 'this is what I really meant'.

There is no 'nuance'.

You claimed Real are elite and Barca need hundreds more millions to spend to compete with them.

Claimed Spurs are tiers above Barca a few weeks ago...

There is no 'nuance' on those claims.

Just usual Serghie 'this is what I really meant' and mental gymnastics as ever.

As said you make out Barca are a team full of kids.. and ignore every other player.

Pedri is not a kid. He is one of best in world in his position.
 

jamrock

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200M was still a lot considering Barcas financial situation. Would've been pretty bad if it didn't work out, because we can't just easily try again. Honestly we're lucky Dembele is healthy and we can compensate a lot with youth players because the 120M for Ferran and Raphinha already look meh, and so do Alonso and Kessie. Not even to mention Bellerin.

It's going very well so far (at least result wise) in the league i don't disagree there, but if we mention last seasons points then we also have to consider the way better team we have now.

I mean just look at some of the line-ups used last season with us starting players like Abde, Jutgla, Demir etc. it was tragic.

All in all it's good, but i wouldn't say it's phenomenal or anything.

Fair enough.

The two previous seasons to last, we had a younger, Suarez & Messi, who combined for over 50 & 40 goals per season respectively in the league, a fresh cheeseman & just brought in what was voted as the best Midfielder in Europe in De Jong.

Spent 200m on those 2 players alone.

For all that we finished, 2nd in la Liga twice, if the club had a Spin Dr on their board or a coach like Jose, they would make an argument that finishing 2nd this season & closing the points gap back to 5-7 points, which is where is was with the GOAT, Suarez & spending 200m, would constitute competing & a big improvement in the league, considering we only have in effect 1 effective goal scorer.

I can totally see Jose spinning that if he was out coach btw lol.

But we not about that spin life, winning the league is a must, not just for the levers, but simply because going 4 seasons without winning it, is unacceptable.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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Xavi: "Spanish football has gone in a tactical and defensive direction. That's why you see so many stoppages in play, so little rhythm, so many cards. The mentality is more defensive than in other countries."


So basically: there's less talent so they just have to park the bus. Other way to read it.

But wherever it's going, it's not good direction.. Spanish league, Spanish National team in the mud. Changes needed. A lot.
 

vegitot

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Haha the usual.. 'this is what I really meant'.

There is no 'nuance'.

You claimed Real are elite and Barca need hundreds more millions to spend to compete with them.

Claimed Spurs are tiers above Barca a few weeks ago...

There is no 'nuance' on those claims.

Just usual Serghie 'this is what I really meant' and mental gymnastics as ever.

As said you make out Barca are a team full of kids.. and ignore every other player.

Pedri is not a kid. He is one of best in world in his position.

Spur are tier above Barca :lol:

If other coaches are in charge, serghei will say the current squad is one of the best in the world :lol:
 

JamDav1982

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Spur are tier above Barca :lol:

If other coaches are in charge, serghei will say the current squad is one of the best in the world :lol:

Aye and Wan Bissaka is a better RB than Kounde.. Antony is on a par with Raphinha etc.

While Real are world class in every area of their team and it is laughable to compare Barca squad quality to theirs. It would take hundreds of millions spent to make that claim..

Other coaches? Some amount of shite were held up as top talents who had 'agendas' against them etc.
 

serghei

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Spur are tier above Barca :lol:

If other coaches are in charge, serghei will say the current squad is one of the best in the world :lol:

Spurs play CL, Barca is EL team for 2nd season in a row.

Keep laughing. Only now we are just starting to pull ahead of Spurs. Last season Spurs was better than us. Even beat City in both games.

when Koeman was in charge, the expected objective after losing Messi and others was finishing on 3-4th. Not my fault he got the team on 9th place and got sacked.
 
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JamDav1982

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Aye led to EL by Xavi.

Brilliant.

Serghie actually think Spurs have better squad than Barca.

Sensational.

Spurs better than Barca..Barca need hundreds of millions to compete with Real, Wan Bissaka better RB than Kounde, Antony is on a par with Raphinha.

Amazing lengths will go to for excuses on Xavi.
 
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JamDav1982

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Just imagine.. could be cheering on Lloris, Davies, Lenglet, Emerson, Hojberg etc every week!

Other than Son no Spurs player gets in Barca line up.. Could argue Kane but then it is Lewa v Kane and could go either way.
 

Porque

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Xavi: "Spanish football has gone in a tactical and defensive direction. That's why you see so many stoppages in play, so little rhythm, so many cards. The mentality is more defensive than in other countries."


So basically: there's less talent so they just have to park the bus. Other way to read it.

But wherever it's going, it's not good direction.. Spanish league, Spanish National team in the mud. Changes needed. A lot.

In other words, I don't know what the fuck to do in Europe :lol:
 
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