BBZ8800
Senior Member
Madrid not prioritizing la Liga is an excuse for their shambolic record in recent years during Ronaldo penzema era
Or just coping of our fans.
That's like saying Messi/CR7 are not prioritizing WC title.
Because a title with Psg/Al Nassr are bread and butter of any footballer.
For the last 10 years, everyone knows that CDR is shit and nobody pays attention to it except bottom table teams and BARCA.
About La Liga, ok, it is important.
But still, if for some reason you had to choose between league and CL, everyone would pick CL.
Also, the more time goes by, I have a feeling that:
1. RM is built to be the best club in Europe/World. So, their ultimate goal is to win CLs and to build teams who can play and cope with European opponents
2. on the other hand, Barca is driven by hate towards RM coming from politics (Catalonia is not Spain), and you often get an impression that Barca values more win in a CDR and possibly losing players due to fatigue and injuries over CL quarters against Bayern or Liverpool.
I wouldn't be surprised that a lot of older socios really only value La Liga and CDR = aka being better than RM at home.
Let's say that a modern Barca's history starts in 1990/91 season with the first Cruijff's Dream team league title.
Stats since then are quite interesting in terms of league titles, CDR titles and CL titles:
1991-2022:
La Liga titles:
16 Barcelona
10 Real Madrid
Copa Del Rey titles:
8 Barcelona
3 Real Madrid
Champions league:
8 Real Madrid
5 Barcelona
So, for the last 30 years we are watching the same story over and over again:
1. Barca usually dominating domestic competition
2. Real Madrid being more successful in a CL
3. Barca investing way too much in a meaningless CDR
4. Barca being unable to win unless it is 150% better than European opponents. On the other hand, Real Madrid being able to win in tons of different tricky situations in Europe
5. Barca usually being dead in Europe once it goes 0:1 down in KO matches, while RM is known for 10s of goals in the 90th minute or coming back from 0:2
Also, another interesting stat for the end: imo, around 10 years ago RM figured out that CDR is a waste of time and they started to lose intentionally to keep stamina for La liga and CL matches in final months of a season (as someone mentioned: for RM the season starts in February).
So, this is a number of CDR wins and titles since 2013/14 (when RM started their era of 5 CLs in 9 years):
2014-2022, number of CDR titles:
5 Barca
1 Real Madrid
Number of finals 2014-2022:
7 Barcelona
1 Real Madrid
Number of CLs 2014-2022:
5 Real
1 Barca
Year after year, some fans celebrate when RM goes out early in CDR.
Yet, what happens in the end => they'll just win a CL in June with 3:0 and be totally fresh and motivated.
While we will watch a CL from home and celebrate our CDR title and a win vs Betis/Bilbao.
While we were KOd in a CL group stage or with some random 1:5 or 0:4 defeat in the round of 16.
Regarding league, I am not saying that RM is losing on purpose. They aren't.
But, deep down there are traits of an idea that:
1. RM will try to win La liga if possible. If not, they'll try to win a CL
2. on the other hand, it seems that our main goal every season is to be better than the evil RM on the domestic stage.
We play La Liga and CDR matches with 120%. And then, since our players were never known to be too physical, we are usually dead tired in March and April in key CL matches (like in 2014 and 2016 vs Atletico, for example).
Also, on top of that idea: it seems that RM is building teams for KO matches of a CL, who knows how to play vs European teams and who knows how to come back from 0:1 or 0:2.
Yet, it seems that our teams are mostly build to TikiTaka/technically dominate already very technical and physically weak La Liga and CDR.
And then we come TIRED to key CL KO matches and on top of everything, we don't know how to cope with running, pressure, crosses from European teams who use totally different weapons than La Liga teams who mostly attack us in the same fashion: with some Wallmart version of technical shortpassing football with Wallmart 168 cm attackers from Brazil, Colombia and Spain who need 10 chances to score one goal.
And then our team is used to a slow tempo of La Liga and to bad attackers.
Then we come to Europe and have like 2 wins in 15 matches with a goal ratio 25:50 and then we wonder what happened, and we scapegoat a random player like Raki, Vidal, Kessie and think that the solution is easy: we'll just change that one guy and we'll fly in Europe, just like in 2009 or 2011.
Also, we come back to matches vs Girona and Getafe and hail our midfielders and defenders for 1:0 wins.
Against teams who have 50% of intensity and skills of EPL and who always attack in the same way.
Regarding Classicos, some people reply: well, if RM is that good, HOW COME that we usually beat them in El Classicos?
Well, again, our ONLY motivation in football is = to win against RM and to be better than them in Spain.
We play with passion, motivation and anger against them. And the results are good.
Also, we know them too well and we know how to attack and defend against them.
On the other hand, when we meet any random European team like Bayern, Inter, Man Utd, Eintracht = we don't have a clue what is happening, how to cope with pressure and running, how to defend crosses, how to break their defense (who is different than La Liga defenses).
Remember the words of Carles Puyol:
Former Barcelona captain Carles Puyol has claimed that his old team need to change their priorities drastically in order to compete with Real Madrid.
Puyol captained arguably the greatest club side when he was at centre back for the Catalan giants and says he is 'furious as a Barca fan' on the back of Real's 13th Champions League triumph.
A league and cup double by Valverde's side was put in the shade by Ronaldo and co as they made it three European cups on the spin, something that had never been done before.
And Puyol's solution is to treat the Kings Cup, a competition they have won four times in a row, in a similar fashion to how the bigger clubs treat the league cup in England.
Speaking to La Vangauardia newspaper, Puyol said, 'I am convinced that we have a better team than Madrid, but they have won four of the last five Champions Leagues.
Puyol captained arguably the greatest club side when he was at centre back for the Catalan giants and says he is 'furious as a Barca fan' on the back of Real's 13th Champions League triumph.
'I think the solution comes from getting our priorities straight. We're losing an opportunity and I'm furious about that as a Barca fan.
'Winning the treble is extremely hard as statistics show, so I think the most sensible thing would be to relegate the King's Cup.
'Don't get me wrong, I loved playing in the final, but the path there should be for the reserves and the young players to show if they are good enough or not.'
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