Respekt_III
Anti-everything
We are lucky to even be 12 points ahead tbh.
ty blackmagic for laliga - because it surely wasnt xavis amazing tactics with us scrapping a bunch of 1-0 wins with opponents missing absolute sitters lol
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We are lucky to even be 12 points ahead tbh.
ty blackmagic for laliga - because it surely wasnt xavis amazing tactics with us scrapping a bunch of 1-0 wins with opponents missing absolute sitters lol
serghei
Senior Member
Don't ask for much logic in these situations after a heavy loss. Guy doesn't have it even in normal circumstances, let alone after a Clasico trashing.
The situation is simple. You need heavy funds to build a top class football squad in 2023 from ground up almost.
Don't want to piss in anyone's tea, but our best players are super-injury prone to add to the issue. If Dembele and Pedri were build like tanks, maybe we could get away with having a thinner squad, but they are very prone to injuries.
It's true that injuries had an effect as did the referee, who seemed to be edging the decisions towards Madrid enough to effect the match.
That's not mentioning the penalty appeals.
But Xavi still has alot to learn. The squad was limited through injuries but we can't be this conservative Greece2004, Morocco2022 team that plays the percentages and scrapes wins.
Anyways to some up the game. First half decent, second half abysmal, and reaction to the in-game situation = non-existent.
HT we regressed and no changes in the setup until around 5-10 minutes after going 3 down. Too late considering what was going wrong in the team for pretty much all the 2nd half- and in the case of Raphinha, all game.
Time has proven he got Ferran absolutely wrong too and that is going to cost us financially for years unless we luck out with Lucho wanting him. Big mistake giving up our option on Alvarez for this guy.
That's not mentioning the penalty appeals.
But Xavi still has alot to learn. The squad was limited through injuries but we can't be this conservative Greece2004, Morocco2022 team that plays the percentages and scrapes wins.
Anyways to some up the game. First half decent, second half abysmal, and reaction to the in-game situation = non-existent.
HT we regressed and no changes in the setup until around 5-10 minutes after going 3 down. Too late considering what was going wrong in the team for pretty much all the 2nd half- and in the case of Raphinha, all game.
Time has proven he got Ferran absolutely wrong too and that is going to cost us financially for years unless we luck out with Lucho wanting him. Big mistake giving up our option on Alvarez for this guy.
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serghei
Senior Member
Porque, some limitations are too big to deal with when the other team is having a top night. It's part of football. Some problems can be managed, some can't.
There's not much to learn from this game, really. Plan didn't work. Same manager beat Madrid 4-0 in exactly the same fashion almost last year.
No amount of coaching will magically make some bench warmers perform like multiple CL winners.
There's really not much learning to be done today from this game. All things that the game showed were mentioned here before many times, repeatedly.
There's not much to learn from this game, really. Plan didn't work. Same manager beat Madrid 4-0 in exactly the same fashion almost last year.
No amount of coaching will magically make some bench warmers perform like multiple CL winners.
There's really not much learning to be done today from this game. All things that the game showed were mentioned here before many times, repeatedly.
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
Xavi is a moron if he doesnt learn from his mistakes tonight.
Blaming 'bench warmers' again.
How about Raphinha, Lewa and Gavi?
Who were worse than those bench warmers.
Usual mental gymnastics to make out Xavi had no chance.
Always some reason.
How about Xavi getting more out the nearly 200m of attacking players he bought.. or the man he rates as best DM in world in Busi... or his pet project in Gavi.. or his 60m CB.
Start with looking at those players and why they failed.
Blaming 'bench warmers' again.
How about Raphinha, Lewa and Gavi?
Who were worse than those bench warmers.
Usual mental gymnastics to make out Xavi had no chance.
Always some reason.
How about Xavi getting more out the nearly 200m of attacking players he bought.. or the man he rates as best DM in world in Busi... or his pet project in Gavi.. or his 60m CB.
Start with looking at those players and why they failed.
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Barcilliant
Senior Member
Your mama called and said she enjoyed my humongous dick.
Barcilliant
Senior Member
Too stubborn to learn. We are running out of time and money with this guy at the helm.
Barcilliant
Senior Member
Your boy Xavi got schooled yet again.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Yes yes, all managers learn from defeats if you want to put it like that. Xavi learns today, Ancelotti learned when he lost, Klopp learns afte the 2-5 and so on...
No not all defeats but when have as many players you expect more from playing so poorlt and team structure being as abysmal as it was he has a lot to learn from that game.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Not quite the argument you think it is.
Redbuck
Member
Well for anyone who's level headed after the disasterclass we just watched, these are the conclusions that can be drawn from that match.
1. We need experience when we're under pressure in knockout games. That's one thing Madrid have over us, and it showed in this match. This will come with time as our squad is generally young and have not had much exposure to under pressure knockout games.
2. We need a new mentality cos when under heavy pressure, our mentality sucks. If there's anything Xavi should work on during preseason, it's this. It's high time we got rid of this beta mentality that has plagued us for years.
3. We need depth/quality bench. Cos our squad is generally thin. 1-2 injuries to any of our starting players, and our whole team suffers bcos of the absentees cum the inability of the bench players to provide what our starting players do (or even half of it tbh)
4. Xavi needs to make us level/intensity throughout the whole game. This is a recurring problem in most of the big games we have lost this season (Bayern, Inter, Man Utd, Real Madrid). If we really need to make progress next season, this should be one of our major problems.
5. Get rid of the deadwood. This doesn't need any explanation
1. We need experience when we're under pressure in knockout games. That's one thing Madrid have over us, and it showed in this match. This will come with time as our squad is generally young and have not had much exposure to under pressure knockout games.
2. We need a new mentality cos when under heavy pressure, our mentality sucks. If there's anything Xavi should work on during preseason, it's this. It's high time we got rid of this beta mentality that has plagued us for years.
3. We need depth/quality bench. Cos our squad is generally thin. 1-2 injuries to any of our starting players, and our whole team suffers bcos of the absentees cum the inability of the bench players to provide what our starting players do (or even half of it tbh)
4. Xavi needs to make us level/intensity throughout the whole game. This is a recurring problem in most of the big games we have lost this season (Bayern, Inter, Man Utd, Real Madrid). If we really need to make progress next season, this should be one of our major problems.
5. Get rid of the deadwood. This doesn't need any explanation
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Barca squad is not lacking experience under pressure at all.
Lame excuse.
It was not down to pressure tonight either.
Too many players playing poorly and badly set up team and a coach who couldnt react to improve it.
Lame excuse.
It was not down to pressure tonight either.
Too many players playing poorly and badly set up team and a coach who couldnt react to improve it.
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