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JamDav1982

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Make own luck in parts.

If Barca dont go out the EL by being humiliated by Frankfurt they can go on to a top seed in CL.

Same folk who go on about how shit ETH and Man Utd are made out Xavi is unluckiest man alive to have drawn them.
 

L3v1s

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Whatever we're saying, it's been 3 years since the last time we saw light out of a champions league group. This club's legacy is simply too colossal to get used with yearly group stage elimination. And besides that you look at some teams that made it further than us, some of them even winning it. It gets more frustrating because some of them aren't that much better. Talking about the likes of Chelsea for example.
 

Temptation

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Jamdav, imo there's a bit more nuance to the Dembele argument.


So the first assumption preceding the premise of my argument would be that Xavi is a poor manager who struggles to coach cohesive offensive patterns of play. It's all a bit disjointed and static tactically. Not a fluid free flowing progressive passing game.


So now we come to Dembele. Has Dembele been a success at Barca? Fuck no! But does Dembele possess a specific set of skills which very few players have? Hell yes! Dembele's ability 1 on 1 with his explosive pace and dribbling skills is amazing. He can carry the ball and get you up 20 yards in no time with this.


This attribute majorly helps the static style of Xavi. Since Xavi is weak at coaching proper penetrative Football, he heavily relied on Dembele to get the ball up the pitch. That solved a lot of coaching problems for Xavi. That's why Xavi loved him.


Now, without Dembele Xavi is in big trouble since he has no clue on how to get up the pitch organically and invade into the final third. He'll rely on a bastardised half-effective counter pressing system to get into the final third against half-decent teams.


So, even if you classify Dembele as a bum he had a big role in this system and unlocked a lot of problems Xavi faced. None of Barca's other wingers can do that.
 

jamrock

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Jamdav, imo there's a bit more nuance to the Dembele argument.


So the first assumption preceding the premise of my argument would be that Xavi is a poor manager who struggles to coach cohesive offensive patterns of play. It's all a bit disjointed and static tactically. Not a fluid free flowing progressive passing game.


So now we come to Dembele. Has Dembele been a success at Barca? Fuck no! But does Dembele possess a specific set of skills which very few players have? Hell yes! Dembele's ability 1 on 1 with his explosive pace and dribbling skills is amazing. He can carry the ball and get you up 20 yards in no time with this.


This attribute majorly helps the static style of Xavi. Since Xavi is weak at coaching proper penetrative Football, he heavily relied on Dembele to get the ball up the pitch. That solved a lot of coaching problems for Xavi. That's why Xavi loved him.


Now, without Dembele Xavi is in big trouble since he has no clue on how to get up the pitch organically and invade into the final third. He'll rely on a bastardised half-effective counter pressing system to get into the final third against half-decent teams.


So, even if you classify Dembele as a bum he had a big role in this system and unlocked a lot of problems Xavi faced. None of Barca's other wingers can do that.

Going a bit over board, but the gist of what you're saying, is correct.
 

JamDav1982

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I never argued Dembele is worthless at Barca.

But sweeping statements about how he cant compete at CL level etc dont wash and now argued that only applies to Barca and not if he moves.
 

Givenchy

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I don't want to overreact here. As we all know it's not an easy situation at the club and it's only one half into the season.

With that being said, I think Xavi might be the worst manager in the world.
Not an easy situation yet this clown wants to make it an even harder situation with shite signings HE requested.
 
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Andresito

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Wouldn't blame him this game honestly. Easy to point fingers but not sure what should be done differently. Haven't seen a single idea on what we should've done instead ahead of the game.
 

Daisymorr

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These cards for managers in PL and La Liga this season are crazy. So many managers are going to be sent off this year. That was harmless. Pep and Klopp will need to have an electric fence around their technical area.
 

jamrock

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First game of the seasons way to getafe which is always a tough game even when we were kings

Not the best start, but we need work
 

BJJ

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More rubbish from this fool. If we had Mbappe, Haaland and Vinicius he would still cry he has no players.
An absolute fool who can't control himself. Idiot being exposed for the fraud he is.
 
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