Gnidrologist
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Equally mediocre midfield just won world cup thanks to certain factor not unfamiliar to Ernie.
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EV was part of the problem. Come solely to console the amigos and never to renevate the squad which set the club back years both sporting and financially.
By the job specification he was a success, but he had to put his balls in a box and be Bartomeu's and Amigos yes men.
For that I can never really credit that period as a success.
By the job specification he was a success, but he had to put his balls in a box and be Bartomeu's and Amigos yes men.
For that I can never really credit that period as a success.
malvolio
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Old ass core was still better overall than what we have now as a squad. Back to back Ligas vs a stronger Madrid and team was better in Europe(regardless of the Roma and Liverpool collapses). EV is probably still better than Xavi because he at least has an idea on how he wants to play.
malvolio
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This was another lie perpetuated in here by people that have a short memory. It was not about not trying to replace them but about who we tried to replaced them with.
EV, Barto, Abidal, board fucked up with the signings after Neymar left. We got Paulinho, Arthur, Andre Gomes, Dembele, Griezmann, Malcom, Semedo, Coutinho, Alcacer.
I disagree. And the issue is that we held on to them too long while we should have phased them out per season.
I agree with you on one thing though, had we phased them out, that there would have been a huge question mark that they would have been adequetely replaced.
But the fact that Busi, Jordi and Pique were all starting as of recent and left on their own terms to Inter Miami, Inter Miami and Retired, emphasises just how this group overstayed their welcome.
malvolio
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You're mixing the eras then. EV was 5 years ago. Of course that having them on their last legs last season or two seasons ago is crazy. No huge question mark, we really got players for lots of money and they didn't perform.
EV got some players(don't know how many of them were his signings) and when he saw like of Gomes, Griezmann or Coutinho playing of course he kept the old guard as starters.
El Gato
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Not really. It led you nowhere and could only play one way to mitigate for issues of how the squad was shaped. Hands were, for a large part, tied. Had players unfit for position dumped into the team.
Major failures in cups is what you can lay his feet and through terrible on field leadership from the amigos.
Xavi on the other hand plays mostly unforced turgid football out of inexperience and through various quirks arising from personal attachments to core players. Could argue has less room to maneouvre with the amount of change that had to take place post-Koeman and cant sort every problem at once, but he has far more influence on recruitment, OK'd garbage deals (Lewa, Romeu, Ferran) and did very little to make actual progress with the side. Did well promoting a few prospects and working out how to limit Madrid, that's about it far as his real influence goes. So far he's just kind of kicking the can down the road. Just in a different way to EV
Iniesta Ultra
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Espn crew are mocking Xavi, finally.
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José Álvarez told El Chiringuito that, if Xavi Hernández does not achieve the objectives set for this season, Barça would consider the coach not continuing as head of the team. According to information from José Álvarez, Rafa Márquez would be the main candidate to replace Xavi: "he is a coach that the board falls in love with"
Don Juan Laporta Estruch
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Would not mind him at all. Risky, but the potential replacements mentioned here would almost certainly fail and sink Barca lower than they are now. ( Ten Haag, De Zerbi etc )
The only 2 coaches I liked are Gallardo and Slot. Inzaghi is good, but they will never go for him due to him never having played 4-3-3. He's a 3-5-2 merchant.
Gallardo is gone now, so Slot y nada mas.
Gnidrologist
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Wouldn't mind Rafa. He's probably no nonsense guy, who can get these fairies working for once. The Chameleon Eyes is just too here and there.
KingLeo10
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Birdy
Senior Member
Laporta is honestly shockingly stupid....
He thinks that - because it worked once with Pep (once in a million years chance) - he can unearth WC coaches from the Barca youth system...
Instead of acting like a modern club president, and handing the task to a proper SD department (not his friends, call me Deco) to identify one of the MANY elite coaches out there capable of playing the positional attacking football we all want from our club.
Depressing...
Laporta stint depends on this. It's already enough for him to go that he hasn't implemented a proper club structure with professionals. If he makes another mistake after Xavi, he should really not get elected ever again.
LAPORTA OUT
Messigician
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Iniesta Ultra
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I don't want ETH but you're crazy to think he could do worse than Xavi.
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