Xavi Hernández

[Xaviniesta]

Pique was never a top 20 CB the way you judge them but he was good enough to play in the best team of all time.
About the RB you misunderstood something I wrote three months ago and keep posting about it. You don't understand anything about tactics or team disposition but only want to make cheap points without trying to understand.

sorry to break it to you but your mouse-pointing analyses do not make your delusions any more accurate

 

[Bobo32]

sorry to break it to you but your mouse-pointing analyses do not make your delusions any more accurate

You are not breaking anything, but I can say that you must try harder if you want to convince me that I'm wrong or that you can teach me anything.
Your one-liners with a gif at the end - child play...

We don't know much about Xavi as a manager yet, but it's a bit remarkable that some here feel they can belittle his judgement in that way.
And some posters with the crocodile tears about Koeman when Laporta correctly said he had gone to the hospital - "disrespecting a club legend"

 

[Birdy]

It's not a win or loss for anyone. Barcelona are losing, they just had their worst year in over 10 years.

Those who are on Cruyffs, Peps and Xavis side, who liked the way they played between 08-12 should be happy that Xavi still see the quality in these kind of players and think he could use them well.
Those who prefer Koeman, Vidal, Griezmann or Wijnaldum, Emerson etc - I don't even know what to put here, they prefer whatever they feel is still fresh, and blame everyone older - will obviously laugh about it. My question is still - why Barcelona? I don't see many from the city writing here... They like blue/red? Why don't they support any other club, with players of a different kind?

It's a shame Font wasn't appointed so we could see who wins/loses, what will happen now is that another year goes wasted under Koeman, not using these GOATS to their full potential. Koeman still uses the players mind you, and Busquets, Messi and Alba are probably the best three players of the team still, but the general play is not suited for these players.

What you don't get is that Cryuff Pep and Xavi are not identical.
In theory and on paper they are on the same side.
But to apply theory and principles to practice requires a talent, and judgment that involves a lot more than 'knowing what the theory is', and above all correct assessment of empirical reality out there.
All the above, Pep has, that's why he has never stopped being successful since he left Barca.
He is successful by constantly changing, adapting to the evolution of the sport, without abandoning his principles.

Something we don't know if Xavi is able to.
On the contrary, his statements, especially big blunder-statements like the one quoted about Pique and the rest, attest to the contrary about Xavi's judgment.

Sorry to break it to you, but Busi circa 2020 is not Busi from 08-12, same for Pique, and same for Roberto who was never that good footballer to begin with.
Not only they are not GOATS (lol ) any more, but they have become the laughing stock of Europe recently

You live in a fantasy dreamland, like Xavi, made up of mere nostalgia of the past.
Trying to replicate something that worked in the past, without having the same players obviously, but most importantly without realizing why it stopped winning at some point, how and in what way football evolved since then, is a blind idealism!

You can't turn back time.

As for the rest, you have no more right personally as a Barca fan than anyone else because of some 'ideological purity'.
Which in anycase is a narrow-minded purity:
most people here and elsewhere who support Barca admire and want an attacking-minded, possession-oriented football.
Conflating that with a specific formation, tactical plan, and a pre-determined way of playing, all referring to 4 years of a great team of the past, is twisting football principles
to fit an idiosyncratic ideological take

It isn't a rumour, and maybe an L for those wanted Xavi.
But isn't it a bigger L for those who advocated for Font for a whole year? And only left him for Koeman's sake?

I bite the bullet, BUT

never said Font is right on every thing he says. His obsession with Xavi is unhealthy.
But he has many correct ideas from business/revenue side to institutional structure and sporting project.
Can't overlook that.

 

[Bobo32]

^ A long rambling post starting off with a big straw man and continuing making false certain claims everywhere.
You don't know anything, and neither do I, but it looks bad to use this kind of language (empirical reality, blunder statement etc) when it's mostly about taste, vision and guesswork.

I live in the same fantasy land as Xavi, Font and probably Pep and Cruyff, and you are on Koemans side, fine.

It's not about rights, I am not involved with the club and don't take any rights but to find it puzzling why people who do not even live in the city want to drag Barcelona even more in the same direction as Man Utd, Chelsea, Milan, Inter etc, going for the same players, the same sort of plan. Why not just follow Man Utd?

And it's certainly not about a formation, it's about style.

 

[Messigician]

Bob32 is clearly a troll, like it's obvious to anyone sorry

 

[Messigician]

Unpopular opinion but I'd make a statement now that Xavi will never coach Barcelona as long as I Laporta am president

This is just bullshit from him what coach says this shit for fucking Qatar makes us look like Mugs Xavi: "Fortunately or unfortunately, I have said 'no' to Barcelona twice, for different circumstances, family, professional reasons, contractual reasons... It was not the right time."

 

[vegitot]

He probably just wants Barca at the best condition before he takes the job. Not really impressive imo.

 

[mc_lovin]

Or he just wants to avoid kicking his friends out. Who knows. But we can approach every topic assuming the worst.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Unpopular opinion but I'd make a statement now that Xavi will never coach Barcelona as long as I Laporta am president

This is just bullshit from him what coach says this shit for fucking Qatar makes us look like Mugs Xavi: "Fortunately or unfortunately, I have said 'no' to Barcelona twice, for different circumstances, family, professional reasons, contractual reasons... It was not the right time."

Maybe, after all Koeman himself was the "Xavi" candidate in 2003 and it took him 17 years to get the job.
For reference, Koeman (a club legend) was widely considered a highly rated coach with Ajax, turned us down after Laporta being elected due to the mess the club was in.

That said, Laporta was the one turning Xavi down

 

[Bobo32]

The first time was obviously a tough and bad time to arrive professionally, while this would be a pretty perfect time I think.
There could be something contractual with the WC, there could be something with him shying away from coaching Messi et al (mostly Messi though I'd thought)
There could also be family reason this time, then.

It's good that he was offered the job at least.

 

[DonAK]

Unpopular opinion but I'd make a statement now that Xavi will never coach Barcelona as long as I Laporta am president

This is just bullshit from him what coach says this shit for fucking Qatar makes us look like Mugs Xavi: "Fortunately or unfortunately, I have said 'no' to Barcelona twice, for different circumstances, family, professional reasons, contractual reasons... It was not the right time."

I think this is the case too, unless Xavi has success with a European club or returns to coach Barca B.

 

[Porque]

Let's see what his move is after Al Sadd or if he extends again in 2023. If he does then he is just interested in picking up big paychecks in a pressure risk environment. Nothing wrong with that, but speaks volumes of his ambition as a coach and he should probably rule himself out of the Barcelona job long term if that is the case.

He could be waiting for his former team mates to move on, specifically Pique and Messi who he knows will do whatever they want regardless of who is boss. I don't see a problem in this either.

But whatever the case, when (if) the Barcelona job comes around then I hope he gets more experience before getting it. If he stays at Al Sadd for 1 more season or 5 more seasons, he is not going to learn anything more than he has in his 2 years thus far. It will be European football, with European rivals and players in the top level where he will develop more as a manager.

 

[vegitot]

Just like i said above, he wants Barca at the best condition. Maybe even wait till Laporta leaves and Font (or someone else) steps in. Feel like he just wants 100% chance to succeed.

 

[Rory]

Just like i said above, he wants Barca at the best condition. Maybe even wait till Laporta leaves and Font (or someone else) steps in. Feel like he just wants 100% chance to succeed.

Don't blame him for wanting to arrive when he has the best chance of success but it's what he does between now and then that bothers me. Needs to move to a serious club and start dealing with the completely different world of european football.

Seems at the moment he's only interested in being a manager in places he's treated as a god.

 

[Messigician]

Xavi: "People don't analyze how the team loses. They immediately blame it on the players. Busquets, for example. They don't care to know why he is not performing, they want him out."

Lol