Specifically said a couple of times that nobody thinks he is a great choice, just that EV had to go. And I repeat, he made more points than EV that season, and that's with him being in conflict with the main veterans.
The "he got more points than EV" is one bad argument, he got more points because he faced teams like Valladolid & Alaves when their season is over and had nothing to play for
, doesn't mean he did better
Especially when you consider we lost 7 points in 1st 5 matches of the season without Messi while he played all minutes available with Setien.
Oh, and both coaches got 19 Liga games, EV didn't get 20 as you mentioned before.
The story back then was simple. People wanted EV gone as the team was doing worse and worse. Nobody believed Setien was gonna be the shiny knight in white armor like you pretend. The positive mood was mostly because EV was gone, man was putting me to sleep during games. I'm sure others felt the same as the news of his sacking lifted the mood.
As I said, plenty of people had
positive opinion of Setien, and all said he is improvement over EV which he wasn't by any mean or shape, other than empty argument of 2 meaningless points difference between the 2 with EV having his best player missing 5 games and playing not fully fit in another 2.
I didn't say that people were considering him
shiny knight in white armor because I know this forum is too pessimistic to consider any coach like that, not even Klopp or Pep would be considered that on barcaforum
Then we started hearing how the veterans are mad the training sessions are too hard and too frequent, that the assistant manager was too fiery, and so on. Basically a bunch of sissies with a lot of power in the team got mad that their favorite softie manager was sacked and these new no-name guys came up with an attitude. Then he lost the locker room, and the team was basically more or less on auto-pilot.
Yes, we started hearing that, in what context?
We started hearing it at the same time of Barcagate and during the same time Abidal decided to make himself a hero for firing EV without getting agreement with a coach before it and having to settle with 4th choice,you mean during that time?
why do we ignore that? It gives context to the situation.
Regarding Xavi: I admit he has the charisma and respect over Setien, but to BBZ point there is context in the comparison : He is another coach who people overrates due to the possession football (you yourself admit you are huge fan of that style) and this has been the case for many coaches.
You don't remember people here speaking highly of Sampaoli during his early Seville days? or some members thinking Paco Jimenez deserving the job more that Lucho? Or asking why we didn't go for Sarri?
Xavi has resemblance on some of those, since he himself admits he didn't pay attention to defense, which showed in his first season and this season, although he dealt with it really well last year and I was hoping he will build on that rather than getting back to his old ways
