Xavi Hernández

[JamDav1982]

Because they criticize his weaker performances there. It either counts, or it doesn't. If it counts, then talk about the good, not only put his poorer performances in the spotlight.

Not really.

You are praising Xavi in Qatar and they are giving more balanced idea of why that should not be held up as any huge measure that will translate to Barca.

It is not an argument of whether Xavi has succeeded there or not.

 

[serghei]

Can you do one for Ole ?

Would actually paint a much better picture since he came from Molde to a big club like United. Klopp on the other hand managed to promote Mainz , become champions and reach the final in the CL with Dortmund before taking that Liverpool job.

Ole is underperforming for a good while, if Xavi does similarly to Ole over 2-3 years he should be sacked.

Xavi will need to show concrete progress in 1 year or so. The problem is that we are on a very low level struggling even vs bottom table teams at home, so progress all the way to back into the top 2 or winning the title will take some time and good transfers.

First thing we should see is us dominating the weaker sides. That is objective no1 on the way back to the top. Once he does that the next step will be quite clear, beat and dominate the better sides and compete better in the derbies. No way teams like AM or this Madrid should beat you home and away every time you meet them almost, even while playing like crap themselves.

Of course, if Madrid start buying players like Mbappe, we also need to take that into consideration because no way in hell we can afford to match that. Right now, Madrid is an old Benz, inconsistent Vinicius, and pretty poor Rodrygo. If they add Mbappe to that they go up a level instantly.

 

[JamDav1982]

Is Klopp an argument for Xavi being given time at Barca or not winning first season in Qatar?

When wanted Koeman sacked before end of first season as did not win league?

 

[ajnotkeith]

Now we are saying Xavi will need years to fix things but after Koeman had his squad stripped down of MESSI and Griezmann and squad players he wanted like Emerson and Moriba and harassed by his own board saying he needs Koeman to play Puig to get a renewal a bad run of results is enough to pay 12m to sack him...

Koeman has taken over in a very tough time, despite his limitations, it doesn't appear worth to have sacked him considering how much fuckery Laporta did with the squad and the 12m we must pay him if Xavi is gonna come and need 3 years to make Barca a good team.

 

[Messigician]

Best manager in the world

Fuck the haters

 

[serghei]

Now we are saying Xavi will need years to fix things but after Koeman had his squad stripped down of MESSI and Griezmann and squad players he wanted like Emerson and Moriba and harassed by his own board saying he needs Koeman to play Puig to get a renewal a bad run of results is enough to pay 12m to sack him...

Koeman has taken over in a very tough time, despite his limitations, it doesn't appear worth to have sacked him considering how much fuckery Laporta did with the squad and the 12m we must pay him if Xavi is gonna come and need 3 years to make Barca a good team.

Koeman has been losing or drawing consistently vs bottom league table teams. If Xavi does the same next season, he will be in trouble no matter the squad deficiencies.

I just said above that we can't get beaten or draw regularly to teams from 16th or 18th place or thereabouts. If that will happen under Xavi he will get blamed for sure, and rightfully so.

 

[JamDav1982]

Koeman has been losing or drawing consistently vs bottom league table teams. If Xavi does the same next season, he will be in trouble no matter the squad defficiencies.

Not last season when you wanted him sacked before it finished.

They were in contention for league due to how they went on run vs the mid to lower teams.

If Xavi has the same squad and injuries as Barca have had this season he will struggle big time.

 

[serghei]

Not last season when you wanted him sacked before it finished.

They were in contention for league due to how they went on run vs the mid to lower teams.

If Xavi has the same squad and injuries as Barca have had this season he will struggle.

Last season we had a different squad. I trim and upgrade expectations based on squad status as well. We sold and got rid of quite a few players to get rid of the debt, and bought on the cheap instead. Plus injuries.

Last year, the league was winable. This season it is not, but still we should be in the top 4.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Koeman has been losing or drawing consistently vs bottom league table teams. If Xavi does the same next season, he will be in trouble no matter the squad defficiencies.

I don't think it will change under Xavi and it may even be worse if the rumours that he will implement a core Pep style with this squad are true lol.

Me and BBZ and co are like a broken record at this point but the 11 we played last game and in the games we drew against those teams are genuinely mid-table lineups. For a coach to make those lineups top4 they need to be world-class and have everything go right. When the injured come back it should be better but I do not think our squad will ever be full strength.

 

[JamDav1982]

Last season we had a different squad. I trim and upgrade expectations based on squad status as well. We sold and got rid of quite a few players to get rid of the debt, and bought on the cheap instead. Plus injuries.

Last year, the league was winable. This season it is not, but still we should be in the top 4.

Last season was one of the hardest in Barcas history or number of reasons.

Finishing third and winning cup sackable in comparison to Xavi who should be given years?

Doesnt add up.

Now all the reasons why this season is more diificult come out when Xavi is about to take over and not a peep about them previously.

 

[serghei]

Last season was one of the hardest in Barcas history or number of reasons.

Finishing third and winning cup sackable in comparison to Xavi who should be given years?

Doesnt add up.

Last season doesn't compare with this season. We sold/lost both our 1st and 2nd scorers FFS, and replaced them with free players. If Madrid and Atletico would lose that too, then the objective could be preserved. But instead of losing, they added.

So, take away Benzema and Vinicius from Madrid, and Suarez + Griezmann + Carrasco from Atletico, replace them with free players, and then it's open game. Everybody is shit enough so that this Barca can snatch a title.

 

[JamDav1982]

Last season doesn't compare with this season. We sold/lost our 1st and 2nd scorers FFS, and replaced them with free players.

Haha all these 'reasons' now when did not mention any of them under Koeman but for Xavi cant get them out quick enough.

Last season is example of expectations and how it was never given these reasons of time for Klopp etc.

 

[serghei]

Haha all these 'reasons' now when did not mention any of them under Koeman but for Xavi cant get them out quick enough.

Last season is example of expectations and how it was never given these reasons of time for Klopp etc.

I repeat, Koeman's team played like shit vs teams like Rayo, Granada, Getafe etc. He was crap in the big games, but that was excusable. Regularly dropping points vs lowest teams in the league was not excusable. That's why we are 10th or 9th or whatever.

And I repeat again, if Xavi will do the same, he will get heat.

It seems to me that you are starting to panic that we might actually beat the likes of Granada at home by a couple of goals with Xavi at the helm and the youngsters. Beat teams like Granada regularly, and you will climb back up in the table, to top 4 where we should be even now.

 

[JamDav1982]

I repeat, Koeman's team played like shit vs teams like Rayo, Granada, Getafe etc. He was crap in the big games, but that was excusable. Regularly dropping points vs lowest teams in the league was not excusable. That's why we are 10th or 9th or whatever.

No they beat the majority of mid to lower teams and the run went on against those sides is reason challenged.

Back to this season and Rayo? When a minute ago it was all about reasons Xavi needs time due to squad.

Barca have released Messi, sold Griezmann and had 3/4 starts from Fati, Dembele and Aguero all season. You are in for rude awakening if think Barca will start beating every team in league below Barca with those players and Pedri/FDJ missing.

 

[ajnotkeith]

No they beat the majority of mid to lower teams and the run went on against those sides is reason challenged.

Back to this season and Rayo? When a minute ago it was all about reasons Xavi needs time due to squad.

Barca have released Messi, sold Griezmann and had 3/4 starts from Fati, Dembele and Aguero all season. You are in for rude awakening if think Barca will start beating every team in league below Barca with those players and Pedri/FDJ missing.

Missing from the team yesterday, outgoings and injuries :
Messi, Griezmann, Pedri, FDJ, Araujo, Dembele...

And people think we can maintain last season's level replacing those with old relics and Barca B youth lol