Yaya Toure

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I'm sure this has been said already, but if Toure leaves we'll need somebody other than Busquets against physical teams.

If we don't have a strong DM we'll just be overpowered by teams like Chelsea and Inter Milan.

Busquets has never been muscled out of games, I don't know where this misconception about him being unphysical comes from. Just because he falls over when somebody breathes on him in an attempt to win a free kick doesn't mean he can't mix it when necessary. When Busquets has screwed up it's either been down to complacency or misjudging a long ball, both faults which willl probably be ironed out of his game with more experience.
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
Busquets is a complete package for a mid-fielder... With experience he's gonna be a WPOTY for sure!! If Cesc can make it, Busi sure could :p
 

barcetia

Mikrofonkåt
Another reason why Touré is leaving is that Pep needs a CDM identical himself.

Busquets is Guardiola 2.0 (don't mean that he is an improvement but he surely plays exactly like him)
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
I've read some time ago where Pep was quoted as saying - the pivot should break up opponent's attacks, dictate the tempo and distribute the ball to the attackers on run... if you have one to break the play and another to distribute the ball then you are just wasting a mid fielder in your team!!

He thinks on those lines and clearly that's the reason he sees Busi as our main holding mid-fielder... But Masch doesn't fit into that description, so I don't really understand Pep's affection for him! Of course he might have that shade to his game but it's never been his main strength till date to my knowledge
 

Lemmi

The Reckoner
Busquets has never been muscled out of games, I don't know where this misconception about him being unphysical comes from. Just because he falls over when somebody breathes on him in an attempt to win a free kick doesn't mean he can't mix it when necessary. When Busquets has screwed up it's either been down to complacency or misjudging a long ball, both faults which willl probably be ironed out of his game with more experience.

it is about presence, he just doesnt impose himself in the same way, they have different qualities that both make them assets but yaya's runs and ability to hold the ball under pressure and commit players is really valuable, he is also much better in the air.

depor, inter and chelsea away last year were all games that busquets was simply not a great enough of a force.
 

barca96

New member
have been watching matches from last season to make up for the off-season.
i watched his moves carefully, really gave me the goosebumps sometimes.
now i appreciate him more..
really tough to say goodbye
 

Metaphysical

Bomb Dropper
Busquets has never been muscled out of games, I don't know where this misconception about him being unphysical comes from. Just because he falls over when somebody breathes on him in an attempt to win a free kick doesn't mean he can't mix it when necessary. When Busquets has screwed up it's either been down to complacency or misjudging a long ball, both faults which willl probably be ironed out of his game with more experience.

I don't know where this misconception that having one strong midfielder can help you win games against physical teams comes from.

I mean, even if we play yaya there, does that suddenly stop every other player from being physical?

what use is yaya's physique anyway? he so rarely attacks an opponent like busquets, which is why the lanky fall-artist got into the team in the first place. yaya sits and waits for an opponent to come to him, which doesn't fit collective pressing. I wish he would attack opponents because then he'd be truly awesome. but it is what it is.

I've read some time ago where Pep was quoted as saying - the pivot should break up opponent's attacks, dictate the tempo and distribute the ball to the attackers on run... if you have one to break the play and another to distribute the ball then you are just wasting a mid fielder in your team!!

He thinks on those lines and clearly that's the reason he sees Busi as our main holding mid-fielder... But Masch doesn't fit into that description, so I don't really understand Pep's affection for him! Of course he might have that shade to his game but it's never been his main strength till date to my knowledge

yaya can distribute the ball well enough, that's not a problem, but he can't mix it in a short-passing attack like busquets.

yaya has great control and dribbling and rarely gives the ball away but he often moves it sideways or backwards. busquets has a better short and mid-range pass, so he can move the ball forward faster and in more varied situations than yaya can. and of course he can make forward runs, with xavi dropping back into the role of volante. this extra movement adds something to our attacking play.

none of these problems (except maybe passing) are terminal but yaya has not really improved as a player during his time at barcelona. he's as awesome now as he was when he arrived. and it's obvious he's not pep's kind of DM either. he's also looked very lazy at times this season, been a serial underperformer since the pre-season finished, and his agent is a monumental cockfag. when you add that all up, it means yaya will leave.

but he will leave with his head held very high IMO. I hope he goes on to great success elsewhere, and I hope he dumps his agent.

regarding badger, his short-range passing is about as good as yaya's, his long-range is much worse but his medium-range passing is much stronger. and he's a far far superior DM, capable of being both a sweeper and a hustler, depending on what you want. the way he can choke the life out of opposing midfields (when the team engages in collective pressing) is so dominant, and his sweeping skills covering for others are immense. what he lacks in comparison to yaya is physical stature. that's not to say he isn't strong, he's very strong, but yaya's tall and magnificent in the air. badger may be a good headerer of the ball but we'll never find out because he's such a short-arse.
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
yaya can distribute the ball well enough, that's not a problem, but he can't mix it in a short-passing attack like busquets.

Actually after coming across that quote, I didn't quite under stand the word distribution there... I didn't understand if Pep wanted the DM to dwell on the ball & totally boss the mid field once he recovered the ball(like he did in his hay days) or recover the ball and immediately make a clever short pass, you know in order not to slow down the play(like you've explained what Busi does & Yaya is not that good at!!)
And I wasn't even quite sure if Yaya couldn't do all that!! I mean he's got good control on the ball, he makes some good passes but may be he reacts a bit slow, I don't know
 

DB10

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I wouldn't want Toure at Arsenal, his agent will be negotiating his departure before he's even arrived :lol:. Seems the type of agent that moves his player on every few years for his % of the transfer fee.
 
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Valderrama

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I hate both Toure's and Ibra's agents. Toure's agent is far too vocal and an agent shouldn't be in the paper every other day.

I'm sure I read he said Manchester City were bankrupt because they weren't prepared to pay full price. lol
 

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