Yaya Toure

[oz187]

30M was a good price for him. He was a defensive midfielder that played less than half the time. I don't see how he could justify a 40M or 50M price tag, that's the kind of price a Balon D'or candidate or really good striker attracts.

 

[UberNjufer]

i dont know if serious...

why wouldnt i be

 

[MagIX]

why wouldnt i be

Not too bad the football worst deal ever (Ibra for Eto'o + 45mio euro) ? Eto'o is at least 10x better than Ibra
If CR 24years/90mio, than Ibra 28years/65mio ????? if CR 24/90mio than Ibra arount 10-15mio max.
There is no Inter fans who wasnt happy with this deal, and they are still thanking us.
Or better, nobody in the world has never understood this deal.

 

[UberNjufer]

Not too bad the football worst deal ever (Ibra for Eto'o + 45mio euro) ? Eto'o is at least 10x better than Ibra
If CR 24years/90mio, than Ibra 28years/65mio ????? if CR 24/90mio than Ibra arount 10-15mio max.
There is no Inter fans who wasnt happy with this deal, and they are still thanking us.
Or better, nobody in the world has never understood this deal.

it was 46 mil. for 1 year and we sold him for 25 so it's 20mil. for 1 year of service.As for eto that wasnt the best move but still kaka transfer must be the worst ever,not only did they pay him 60+ mil they pay him 10+ mil. a year on salary

 

[Puyol the wall]

why wouldnt i be

We made a huge loss that says the whole story.

 

[UberNjufer]

We made a huge loss that says the whole story.

did i say we didnt,i said its NOT TOO BAD

 

[MagIX]

it was 46 mil. for 1 year and we sold him for 25 so it's 20mil. for 1 year of service.As for eto that wasnt the best move but still kaka transfer must be the worst ever,not only did they pay him 60+ mil they pay him 10+ mil. a year on salary

No, Ibra cost us 65mio (45mio + Eto'o). "Only" 45mio was not enough, only adding Eto'o (20mio) we could finalize the deal.
1 year cost us 65mio - 24mio (8mio each year for 3 years)=40mio. + 1 year salary =

 

[zanela]

Just wanted to refute some (anti-Yaya)arguments made in the last few pages. (as you see i'm a Yayaista just like I'm Xavista, Villaista, Puyolista, Leoista and so on and so forth...)

-Two of Yaya's supreme showings in Blaugrana came at DM. Old TRafford and Camp Nou (vs Chelsea). He was an accomplished DM for us, and had he stayed he would 've adapted his game further to Barca's requirements. (most notably worked on his medium-range passing). The Yaya-Xaviesta midfield was celebrated by the blaugrana community on a large scale at one point. He showed and had the tools to become a DM legend(with some work), only busi happened to us.

-I think you can judge a player's proficiency in a new role(CB), when the sample happens to be the 3 biggest season defining games (and without prior preparation)- CDR Finals, CL semis (stampford Bridge) and CL finals. I mean he could've simply refused to venture the unfamiliar territory at a very critical stage (like a certain malian ). But he readily accepted the new responsibility, and performed like a pro.

- He did slack in 09/10. Partly his own doing, partly how he was managed.

- And whilst he put in half-arse performances, and you can hate him for it. He was also our only other performer of note and his herculean effort (carrying an injury) in a game our other star players (bar messi) disappointed, would suggest he did care. Yaya has been the bad guy at times, but he's also been the good guy in our bad times. Sorry if thats of greater value to me as Barca fan, than anything he did for us(good or bad) in our title winning seasons.

Having said all of the above, and as much as i rate Yaya as a player (a superb allrounder and more) and think by himself he's a nice and likeable person, i wouldn't want us to renew our broken affiliation as long as Seluk his sly greedy of an agent continues to manage his footballin' affairs.

And i'm not dwelling much on his recent comments. Its integrity can't be verified, but more than that, we've more pressing concerns.

 

[UberNjufer]

No, Ibra cost us 65mio (45mio + Eto'o). "Only" 45mio was not enough, only adding Eto'o (20mio) we could finalize the deal.
1 year cost us 65mio - 24mio (8mio each year for 3 years)=40mio. + 1 year salary =

how did you come up with this equation you cant really count eto as money,i was just curious how much money we lost
46mil-25mil=21 i guess for 1 year of ibra,roughly 1mil. per goal

 

[Myrmecophile]

how did you come up with this equation you cant really count eto as money,i was just curious how much money we lost
46mil-25mil=21 i guess for 1 year of ibra,roughly 1mil. per goal

It is silly to include Eto'o as "money" because he had no real worth to us as we couldn't sell him.

But Ibra's wages were over 10m a year so that's another important factor.

Here's the whole deal analysed: http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/zlatan-ibrahimovic-transfer-analysed.html

 

[UberNjufer]

Just wanted to refute some (anti-Yaya)arguments made in the last few pages. (as you see i'm a Yayaista just like I'm Xavista, Villaista, Puyolista, Leoista and so on and so forth...)

-Two of Yaya's supreme showings in Blaugrana came at DM. Old TRafford and Camp Nou (vs Chelsea). He was an accomplished DM for us, and had he stayed he would 've adapted his game further to Barca's requirements. (most notably worked on his medium-range passing). The Yaya-Xaviesta midfield was celebrated by the blaugrana community on a large scale at one point. He showed and had the tools to become a DM legend(with some work), only busi happened to us.

-I think you can judge a player's proficiency in a new role(CB), when the sample happens to be the 3 biggest season defining games (and without prior preparation)- CDR Finals, CL semis (stampford Bridge) and CL finals. I mean he could've simply refused to venture the unfamiliar territory at a very critical stage (like a certain malian ). But he readily accepted the new responsibility, and performed like a pro.

- He did slack in 09/10. Partly his own doing, partly how he was managed.

- And whilst he put in half-arse performances, and you can hate him for it. He was also our only other performer of note and his herculean effort (carrying an injury) in a game our other star players (bar messi) disappointed, would suggest he did care. Yaya has been the bad guy at times, but he's also been the good guy in our bad times. Sorry if thats of greater value to me as Barca fan, than anything he did for us(good or bad) in our title winning seasons.

Having said all of the above, and as much as i rate Yaya as a player (a superb allrounder and more) and think by himself he's a nice and likeable person, i wouldn't want us to renew our broken affiliation as long as Seluk his sly greedy of an agent continues to manage his footballin' affairs.

And i'm not dwelling much on his recent comments. Its integrity can't be verified, but more than that, we've more pressing concerns.

that's a lot of reading

 

[UberNjufer]

It is silly to include Eto'o as "money" because he had no real worth to us as we couldn't sell him.

But Ibra's wages were over 10m a year so that's another important factor.

Here's the whole deal analysed: http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/zlatan-ibrahimovic-transfer-analysed.html

did they make a mess of that

 

[Aryagorn]

Just wanted to refute some (anti-Yaya)arguments made in the last few pages. (as you see i'm a Yayaista just like I'm Xavista, Villaista, Puyolista, Leoista and so on and so forth...)

-Two of Yaya's supreme showings in Blaugrana came at DM. Old TRafford and Camp Nou (vs Chelsea). He was an accomplished DM for us, and had he stayed he would 've adapted his game further to Barca's requirements. (most notably worked on his medium-range passing). The Yaya-Xaviesta midfield was celebrated by the blaugrana community on a large scale at one point. He showed and had the tools to become a DM legend(with some work), only busi happened to us.

-I think you can judge a player's proficiency in a new role(CB), when the sample happens to be the 3 biggest season defining games (and without prior preparation)- CDR Finals, CL semis (stampford Bridge) and CL finals. I mean he could've simply refused to venture the unfamiliar territory at a very critical stage (like a certain malian ). But he readily accepted the new responsibility, and performed like a pro.

- He did slack in 09/10. Partly his own doing, partly how he was managed.

- And whilst he put in half-arse performances, and you can hate him for it. He was also our only other performer of note and his herculean effort (carrying an injury) in a game our other star players (bar messi) disappointed, would suggest he did care. Yaya has been the bad guy at times, but he's also been the good guy in our bad times. Sorry if thats of greater value to me as Barca fan, than anything he did for us(good or bad) in our title winning seasons.

Having said all of the above, and as much as i rate Yaya as a player (a superb allrounder and more) and think by himself he's a nice and likeable person, i wouldn't want us to renew our broken affiliation as long as Seluk his sly greedy of an agent continues to manage his footballin' affairs.

And i'm not dwelling much on his recent comments. Its integrity can't be verified, but more than that, we've more pressing concerns.

Regarding his fight vs Keita... I did support him to an extent. Like, he's obviously a better player than Keita and we could have used him well as a CM too, but Pep refused to let him play higher up the DM position. The few times he did, it was in half arsed matches as far as I remember. So I can understand the lazy performances too!!

But then he decided to settle the score in public... That's where he lost the credibility IMO. He should never have gone public about his differences with the coach. As widely discussed already, Pep did try personally to retain him(I think Yaya is the only player Pep wanted and tried to retain, personally). He could have discussed his priorities then and there itself, with the coach himself, but no! He only knew the way a kindergarten kid would know... He wanted to settle it all in front of the public!!

And we don't know if Pep really asked Keita to play at LB position He only rejected the idea beacaue it was proposed by a stupid journalist

 

[MagIX]

It is silly to include Eto'o as "money" because he had no real worth to us as we couldn't sell him.

But Ibra's wages were over 10m a year so that's another important factor.

Here's the whole deal analysed: http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/zlatan-ibrahimovic-transfer-analysed.html

Very interessing article, thanks for posting it. I still can not believe how mucht cost us this deal ! worst deal ever !
In inter account the deal was 69.5mio worth (49.5mio + 20mio Eto'o), but it is true that for us selling Eto'o was not easy
(paradoxically, for us it was lucky to buy Ibra so that we could sell Eto'o), but for sure for "only" 45mio (without Eto'o) we couldnt buy Ibra.

 

[psychotsek]

Bottom line is we should treat our player as they are,europe's elite and not try to offload them that easy..
Our transfer policy has been shit the last 3 years in terms of economics..