Yerry Mina

Raketa10

Senior Member
Or if we accept the fact that Gomes, Denis, Mina, Marlon, Arthur and 10s of similar players whom we'll buy in the next 10 years are not "long term solutions" but just "attempts to hit a gem", "hit and miss" and "a gamble", then you won't be disappointed.

In a summer of 2017, a lot of guys thought that Marlon will be our important player. Remember posts: why are we looking for new Cbs? We have Marlon...
Look at what happened only 6 Months later and look at his current level of skills.

We paid Marlon 5M Euros, before Neymar's transfer raised prices.
So, it is quite possible that we would pay Marlon 7, 8 or 10M today.
And then, Mina's price was 10-12M, right?
Imo, both guys are just attempts and we'll see lots of similar attempts in the future.

Very likely Marlon won't end as our longterm solution.
Nor will Mina.

Some guys will ask: but why have we scouted him for so long then?
= because we wanted to find a cheap player who has some chances to be a hidden gem

If he turns into a gem=awesome
If he turns into an average player, which is way more likely=no harm, since he was quite cheap

With players like these, they will be estimated on training grounds and they will get a certain amount of matches but a club surely won't bench key players in order to test these gamble-youngsters for 30-40 matches.

Again, if you'll look at these transfers that way, it will make much more sense why Marlon or Mina don't play too much.
And why we'll buy another young new Cb in a summer (who will again get a similar treatment).

This probably sounds strange to fans who grew up during Pep's era where we had longterm solutions from La Masia (once in a lifetime worldclass level of players) and when we had some foreigners who stayed here for lots of years like Alves, Mascherano, Marquez.

But majority of things during Pep's era are a once in a lifetime things.
And our current hit and miss and gambling type of transfers is a normal way how we have always acted in 90s and 00s, and how all other big clubs are acting.

If you guys will lower your hopes of Mina, Arthur and if you'll look at them only at some of the many future "attempts", you'll lose less nerves and there won't be a need to post things such as: "Ev is an idiot" each two days, because he picked proven Nt level worldclass Cbs Pique, Umtiti and Vermaelen infront of guys like Mina.

BBZ the problem is overplaying Pique and not in hopes regarding Mina. If Mina is not good enough to be on the bench against Las Palmas than we really didn't need to buy him at all. Nobody expects that EV will play him against ATM or Chelsea he is our 4th choice CB but Pique needs rest and he really didn't need to travel to Las Palmas. Same goes for few other players which are being constantly overplayed.
 
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Danic

New member
I like the BBZ walls of text which totaly miss the point...
Why start both main CBs of whom one is already not completely fit vs a team like Girona?? Why waiting tiöl minute 65 or so to sub Pique. This is just idiotic.
Give pique a rest. Start umtiti and vermalen and at least put mina on the bench. This has absoutly nothing to do with ur wall of text....
 
It's clear Valverde wouldn't know talent if it hit him in the face judging by the fact that he plays Paulinho and Vidal over Dembele. We'll have to wait for a new coach to know how good he is.
 

God Serena

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He was OK in his debut and he could have played this match.

We already had Paulinho playing a defensive position and refusing to do any defending, and Vidal on the wing tries to defend but bless his heart, he just can't do it. Do you really think we'd have done better with another defensive player who has no positional discipline?
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
We already had Paulinho playing a defensive position and refusing to do any defending, and Vidal on the wing tries to defend but bless his heart, he just can't do it. Do you really think we'd have done better with another defensive player who has no positional discipline?

And you made this judgment based on one match?
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
We already had Paulinho playing a defensive position and refusing to do any defending, and Vidal on the wing tries to defend but bless his heart, he just can't do it. Do you really think we'd have done better with another defensive player who has no positional discipline?

Well, we could have played him by having Dembele start instead of the good-for-nothing guy named Vidal!
 

God Serena

New member
And you made this judgment based on one match?

One match is all you need to see things like basic positioning. And it's not as if he was known for being well positioned before coming here, either. You can blame his inability to adapt for a lot of issues, but him leaving his CB partner alone so he can hang out up top isn't something you can blame of nerves, he's just poorly disciplined.
 

CatalinR10

Senior Member
I know what you're talking about, but we're giving ourselves too much credit by saying bus, cause there wasn't a bus in this game, not even close to it.

they weren't one untill they got the equalising goal . After that they parked the bus
 

Neeraj

Senior Member
they weren't one untill they got the equalising goal . After that they parked the bus

Of course, they sat back and defended deep, as any team including Vaverde's Barca would do, when getting a favourable result. But I don't think it was a bus till the last 10-15 minutes because they were still sending men forward and there were enough gaps for us to exploit; but we were just too slow on the ball and had nobody bar Messi show any creativity.

Any team that goes on the defensive can be called a bus if we are to call Las Palmas tactics as one.
 

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