Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Paganinisrvnge

New member
I don't understand how someone can say Ibra's goal was way better. It was the same goal. The only difference was that Ibra's was in a friendly and into an open net while Mexes' was in the Champions League with the keeper in goal. Saying Ibra's goal was way better is just being biased because of who Ibra is and because it was against England. It's like saying a 40 yard free kick goal with no keeper in goal is better than a 35 yard free kick that beats a keeper. It's just silly.
 

Galning

Moderator
I don't understand how someone can say Ibra's goal was way better. It was the same goal. The only difference was that Ibra's was in a friendly and into an open net while Mexes' was in the Champions League with the keeper in goal. Saying Ibra's goal was way better is just being biased because of who Ibra is and because it was against England. It's like saying a 40 yard free kick goal with no keeper in goal is better than a 35 yard free kick that beats a keeper. It's just silly.


Again, that logic: :facepalm:
 

Trillske

New member
What goal is the prettiest is subjective. Mexes goal is extremely clean, really beautiful. I get how some people would say its a nicer goal.

What goal is the most spectaculair is not, its Ibras.
I don't think your in any position to belittle an opponent when your trumpeting a friendly, FRIENDLY, against England.
No, you are completely missing the point. It doesnt matter the occassion, it doesnt even matter if you are alone on the field, Ibras goal is beyond the physical limit for "normal" people - even "normal" high level athletes. Luck or anything else wont be enough to do it.

Given a few years of practicing and some 10 000 tries, even I would eventually end up with something similair to Mexes goal. Its quite similair to another goal against Barcelona, probably posted here already. Given a lifetime I woudnt be close to Ibras, I would however be very likely to break something.
Oh, nevermind. You mad that Ibra's moment to shine has passed?
Doubt anyone is, since it hasnt. If you can show me one single goal thats technically harder to pull of, go ahead. Pretty sure you cant. (fast skill-goals; its hard to compair the technical aspect of a Messi/Maradona-run for example)

Again, if you havent played a lot of fotball, try to imagine the individual parts of what he did. For instance, moving away from goal and still get a powerful enough shot in the opposite direction. A normal human gets that ball straight up in the air and is very happy with it.
 
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Deco 20

Scandinavian 101
People seriously saying Mexes' goal was better than Ibra's..

:facepalm:

There's several reasons for them to say so...

Why Mexes is better:
- There's a goalkeeper
- The ball hits the top corner
- It's in a competitive game
- It's in a decisive moment of the game

Why Zlatan's is better:
- Slightly further away
- Unexpected
- The three goals he scored earlier
- It's vs England (aka the best team ever, so more valuable)
- It's not as common because GKs don't usually screw up that badly, so not many people get the chance
 

Deco 20

Scandinavian 101
What goal is the prettiest is subjective. Mexes goal is extremely clean, really beautiful. I get how some people would say its a nicer goal.

What goal is the most spectaculair is not, its Ibras.
No, you are completely missing the point. It doesnt matter the occassion, it doesnt even matter if you are alone on the field, Ibras goal is beyond the physical limit for "normal" people - even "normal" high level athletes. Luck or anything else wont be enough to do it.

Given a few years of practicing and some 10 000 tries, even I would eventually end up with something similair to Mexes goal. Its quite similair to another goal against Barcelona, probably posted here already. Given a lifetime I woudnt be close to Ibras, I would however be very likely to break something.
I don't see what's so special, tbh. He hits a falling ball up into the air and into the goal
 

malvolio

Senior Member
zlatan:
- pretty much the same angle
- longer distance
- no keeper in goal
- first time shot
- scored in a meaningless friendly

mexes:
- chested the ball first which is not so easy
- had pressure from the defenders
- keeper in goal and had time to adjust position
- scored against a weaker team but stake was higher due to milan having to win in order to qualify

mexes for me
 
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badboybjörn

Guest
I think chesting the ball first makes its alot easier tbh. You are setting yourself up for the kick. Same with a volley if you can chest it and shot its alot easier cause you can anticipate it much better. Regardless i think its pointless to debate wich is better. They are both awesome goals. Neither will be amongst the best ever for me. Ibras is not even my fav ibra goal.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Technically Zlatan's goal was more unique and difficult, something probably only he could manage with the incredible lift he had in the air and how he twisted his body in the air to angle his kick.

The distance to goal was much farther and the angle tighter so Zlatan's kick had to be more precise. Besides the fact both were overhead kicks they weren't very similar, Mexes was a chest down control followed by overhead kick, you see this type of goal attempted pretty often, but this one is especially nice because the ball traveled a good distance and had a nice curve. The chest down kind of overhead kick is much easier to hit than a direct overhead kick like Rooney's or Osvaldo's from last season. Mexes had time to turn around and place his body to strike towards goal after chesting it down while Boateng was screening two defenders so Mexes got time and space.

Zlatan's goal came from his vision of what Hart would do and understanding how he could take advantage of the situation and he also had to act quickly so the central defenders and Hart couldn't intercept the ball in time, to do that he had to kick the ball when it was high up in the air to get the right curve and power to the shot and he wasn't standing still but running away from goal when had to jump in the air which increases the difficulty.


And while everyone is entitled to their opinion I don't think scoring that goal in a Champions group stage game against Anderlecht would be nearly as important to Zlatan as scoring it in a friendly against England while inaugurating the new national arena and after years of the English public and pundits calling him talentless and a nobody, worse than Crouch and Andy Carroll. And he'd scored three more goals and won the game too. :blush:

For the team it was a special satisfaction that Zlatan scored the goal and had a man of the match performance opening the new national arena as Sweden's captain the same day a racists scandal broke in the news around a big political party who's previously declared they don't consider Zlatan to be a real Swede because he was brought up by immigrant parents.

The match was much more than a friendly.

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And anybody that says that I'm biased because I'm Swedish, I'll find you through the internet and DESTROY YOU!!! :lol:
 

Papabeef

New member
Love how people here summed it up, at the end of the day they are both brilliantly take shots and made picture perfect memories, the fact they came in the same few days is a bit awkward.

Just saw a nice double kick today in the UEFA's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSPv2BPog6I its not in the same league as the other two in terms of distance, contact or simply beauty but hey its not bad.. Ibra and Mexes both had shots that had minds of their own.... it felt like watching Bryant throw a 3 pointer lol
 

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