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Why do people keep harping about that 150 M figure? Barça made a first offer. BVB indicated they were more thinking of around 150M. Normal negotiation procedure. Since then, no contact. We have no clue whether BVB would sell for less unless we actually contact them again. Which he haven't.

I doubt Dortmund can afford not to be transparent to their shareholders.

Segura saying that after 9 days of no contact is arrogant and embarrassing so a snarky response is understandable. More idiotic comments from the idiots in charge and BVB/Liverpool will demand 200M each.

The quote went on, "...other than because Real played his team dizzy in the Supercup games". Embarrassing of us yet again tbh.

Pettiness usually comes back to bite you, so let them laugh.

Doesn't Neymar Sr profit from this deal as well?

All futile recycled speculation until Barça make a second bid. Afaik the 150M figure still goes back to last Tuesday's negotiations. Can't expect BVB to lower the price if there hasn't been further contact.

Oh come on now.

With Coutinho and Paulinho minus Marlon I think we might need to get another CB.

I endeavour to do the same, but it's hard because thanks to his whole saga his face transmits a punchability to me that resembles that of Xabi Alonso's. The abuse he gets on social media is already pretty bad.

So Barca's offer will probably be around 95 M up front and 20 M in variables.

Indeed, but he can hardly say he wanted this player but not that one, as it would prove to the public that the board have its own reasons behind signing them (and in the case of Paulinho, making that deal seem even more dodgy). If he gives that statement he can keep out of fuelling speculations...

Nope. Dunno what you're referring to, but Großkreutz commented in German, "get Dembele out of the kitchen", and Auba replied in German, "get Dembele out of the kitchen... if a man has a dream, what can I do?". So yeah, Dembele. Edit: He remains suspended.

They are using a lot of subjunctive forms so I guess it's just hearsay. Guess we'll know for sure tomorrow but I don't think it's unrealistic Dembele might have shown remorse. Doesn't mean he doesn't still want to leave. Aubameyang was joking about Dembele on his live stream today but said, "if...

Which explains the Iñigo Martinez rumours I guess. There was talk of "2-3" more signings, I hope Paulinho does not count towards that. If the Coutinho rumours are true I take it we'd essentially need another CB. I don't see us spending on Paulinho AND Coutinho AND Dembele AND a CB AND...

Sunday's Bild writes Watzke would be willing to give Dembele a second chance and Dembele has recognised he's made a mistake and would continue playing for the club. Sounds more like guesswork than anything. Could we afford Dembele and Coutinho with 40M wasted for Paulinho? I guess Coutinho +...

Let's hope so.

Any chance that this is fake news? :(

Problem is, selling club does not need or want to sell. It's the buying club who wants something (the player). So if the valuations differ too much for buying's clubs liking, nothing is keeping them from withdrawing from the negotiations.

Or Jair Ventura's dreams come true and Neyboy convinces him to join PSG. :nasser: Too much speculation for me atm. A first bid was rejected; I'd see what the second offer would be and how Dortmund would react in light of recent developments. I doubt the 150M up front figure.