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Kerrybai

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Because Mats made 3 impossible saves. Bravo would have conceded them, which would have knocked us out and I wouldn't have blamed him one bit.

How on earth do you know if Bravo would have saved them or not? Bravo made some sensational saves last season. This fanboyism over the 2 keepers needs to stop.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Lewa would have knocked us out in Munich.

Not even close. The only big chance Lewandowski had was the one cleared by Stegen from the line. The rest were half chances. Bayern were lucky we didn't beat them in a more clear fashion on Camp Nou. Neuer being man of the match for them in a 0-3 defeat says a lot about the tie.

The difference in the tie was that we scored them 2 goals in Germany and could have scored 2 more, while they didn't even shoot on target in Spain. It Munich it was a balanced first half. In the 2nd half we were thinking about the very important Atletico game in the next weekend and Bayern (and Pep) got a consolation win for their fans. We were the better side in 3/4 quarters in that tie.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
Those three saves were arguably among our top 5 saves of the season in terms of importance because Bayern were really coming back in the game(team slacked off way too much)

It's understandable that the team slacked off. Bayern needed 6 goals to qualify. Search back in history the last time we received 6 in a game. The tie was mostly over on Camp Nou. Neymar's goal was the killer for me, as it was clear that Bayern was in no shape to keep a clean sheet against our attack.
 

raki

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It's understandable that the team slacked off. Bayern needed 6 goals to qualify. Search back in history the last time we received 6 in a game. The tie was mostly over on Camp Nou. Neymar's goal was the killer for me, as it was clear that Bayern was in no shape to keep a clean sheet against our attack.

Obviously. We had the title game ahead in the Calderon.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Obviously. We had the title game ahead in the Calderon.

We were leading 5-1 with 45 mins to go. It's logical to take it easier when you still have important games to play next, one of them away at the spanish champions. Stegen had two great saves in that game. The one against Lewandowski, which was brilliant indeed, and the one at Muller's header. The rest of Bayern's chances to score were not that big in the first half. Let's not forget that the first chance to score was Rakitic's shot saved by Neuer, and that Bayern scored from a random corner, after a mistake by Busquets.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Ter Stegen had a good game away to Bayern in a game that was purposely left open by Lucho.

It was always going to be end to end and chances for both sides.

People acting like Bayern were over powering Barca and Barca were on the ropes dont understand how that game went and the two ties over all.
 

God Serena

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Ter Stegen had a good game away to Bayern in a game that was purposely left open by Lucho.

It was always going to be end to end and chances for both sides.

People acting like Bayern were over powering Barca and Barca were on the ropes dont understand how that game went and the two ties over all.

Yeah, despite that specific game being rather close and stegen putting in a great performance, the narrative that he saved us is kind of skewed. If Bayern had even come close to making us sweat (or if Mats hadn't made any of those saves) the foot would have promptly stepped on the gas and we'd have returned to steamrolling them.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yeah, with one of those being little more than the officially best gk save of the whole season... but according to serghei, IIRC, Barca simply let Bayern have that match as they they are just that altruistic, and tS also didn't do anything special in that match either.

I said Ter Stegen had a great match against Bayern. But it is my opinion that the tie was mostly over after the first leg, since it was clear that Bayern couldn't deal with Barcelona's attack. That was the story of the tie. Us dominating you on our home ground and taking a big enough advantage to make our life a lot easier in the return leg. The tie was over once Neymar scored the 2-1 goal. You can accept that, or not, but it IS the predominant opinion (pundits, commentators and such) that Barca took the game lightly after going up a very comfortable 5-1 aggregate lead in Munich.

Ter Stegen was, indeed, great in that game, but by no means was he the man that had the biggest contribution in the tie. In the first leg, he didn't have anything to save, and the first game was the difference maker.

I commented on the idea that if it wasn't for Ter Stegen we would have been eliminated in Munich. That's a laughable idea in my book. We were the superior team in every position, defence, midfield, attack, in that tie. If anything, the goalkeeper was the only position you had an edge over us -- not to take anything away from Stegen, but Neuer is the best.

That's all I said. Great performance yes, but saving us from the mighty Bayern when we were 5-1 on aggregate (not to mention that the 3-0 on Camp Nou flattered Bayern)? That's an exaggeration if I ever saw one.
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

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Not even close. The only big chance Lewandowski had was the one cleared by Stegen from the line. The rest were half chances. Bayern were lucky we didn't beat them in a more clear fashion on Camp Nou. Neuer being man of the match for them in a 0-3 defeat says a lot about the tie.

The difference in the tie was that we scored them 2 goals in Germany and could have scored 2 more, while they didn't even shoot on target in Spain. It Munich it was a balanced first half. In the 2nd half we were thinking about the very important Atletico game in the next weekend and Bayern (and Pep) got a consolation win for their fans. We were the better side in 3/4 quarters in that tie.

Hahahaha, now you even proclaim to know what Barca players are thinking. This is golden.
Also you don't even realize when you contradict yourself within the exact same posting. Thanks for the good laugh late this evening.
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

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I said Ter Stegen had a great match against Bayern. But it is my opinion that the tie was mostly over after the first leg, since it was clear that Bayern couldn't deal with Barcelona's attack. That was the story of the tie. Us dominating you on our home ground and taking a big enough advantage to make our life a lot easier in the return leg. The tie was over once Neymar scored the 2-1 goal. You can accept that, or not, but it IS the predominant opinion (pundits, commentators

You sure wouldn't mind supplying a few sources (in English) to undergrid your claim, right? I'll make it easy for you, two will suffice.

Also, when exactly did Barca dominate Bayern on their home turf? Must have missed that.
 

Ustari

Mou, res!
You sure wouldn't mind supplying a few sources (in English) to undergrid your claim, right? I'll make it easy for you, two will suffice.

Also, when exactly did Barca dominate Bayern on their home turf? Must have missed that.


No shots on target for Bayern at Camp Nou?
 

Neymessi

Active member
You sure wouldn't mind supplying a few sources (in English) to undergrid your claim, right? I'll make it easy for you, two will suffice.

Also, when exactly did Barca dominate Bayern on their home turf? Must have missed that.

If you are talking about camp nou then you have a weak memory and If you are talking about allianz arena then the only reason you won that match was because we had already won the tie.
 

serghei

Senior Member
You sure wouldn't mind supplying a few sources (in English) to undergrid your claim, right? I'll make it easy for you, two will suffice.

Also, when exactly did Barca dominate Bayern on their home turf? Must have missed that.

I'll give you one right away. Roy Keane, itv post match in Munich: The tie was over at half time.

BBC: Neymar's goal effectively killed off the tie.

Whant more?
 
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