1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

Messi983

Messi983

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Trickykid said:
I'm honestly at a point where I'm willing to accept a slight dip in overall goalkeeping quality (his superior distribution would alleviate it heavily anyhow) for a season or so, if it means we have to play him in La Liga next season in order to keep him. Not that we should accept extortion, but I can completely understand if he won't be happy with continued severely reduced playing time - he's just too good for that.

As much as I appreciate Bravo, it would be devestating to lose MAtS. Sacrifices has to be made.

Best case scenarios for me would be:

A: The two swap roles next season. Bravo should be more than a bit interested in a push for the ChL. Whether it's enough for him to accept a degradation (at least on paper) is the question. I'm also far from sure if Lucho is sold on the idea.

B: MAtS accepts an unchanged role for another season with the promise of being first choice for the 17/18 season, as Bravo is now approaching 35. I can see the German accepting this, but I must admit the recent interview Galning linked isn't doing this scenario any favors.

I really don't want a loan deal for him, unless we find the perfect high level club, and honestly, who could that be?

This summer is going to be a thriller - both in terms of external and internal transfers.
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I'm for scenario B but let him play in CWC if we win CL again.
 
Barcaman

Barcaman

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Trickykid said:
That's just because of Bravo's early season injury. Otherwise it would've been 28/15, meaning the German would've played just about a third of the games this season.
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And if Bravo wasn't injured, Stegen would have probably played CWC.
If Rafinha wasn't injured would Roberto play?

Numbers are there, it doesn't matter how.
 
Trickykid

Trickykid

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Bojan said:
And if Bravo wasn't injured, Stegen would have probably played CWC.
If Rafinha wasn't injured would Roberto play?

Numbers are there, it doesn't matter how.
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Thing is, nothing has changed from last season in terms of hierarchy. A handful more games because of injury doesn't change that.
I'm not arguing that we should bench Bravo as it is, because obviously he doesn't deserve that, but I can understand if MAtS is concerned with the situation - not just this season, but also longer term.
 
Messi983

Messi983

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Well, Courtouis was on loan for three seasons before they choose him over Cech so not exactly the same situation.

But I agree that longterm we should keep MAtS over Bravo.

Anyway, it's a good problem to have. To be fair I was afraid what we'll do after VV left (I remember the decade of Hesp's and Bonano's we had between Zubi and Valdes) but I have to give credit to Zubi for bringing ter Stegen and Bravo.
 
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Barcaman

Barcaman

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Trickykid said:
Thing is, nothing has changed from last season in terms of hierarchy. A handful more games because of injury doesn't change that.
I'm not arguing that we should bench Bravo as it is, because obviously he doesn't deserve that, but I can understand if MAtS is concerned with the situation - not just this season, but also longer term.
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I know but things panned out better for Stegen so far in terms of playing time (we'll see how far in CL we go).
 
Galning

Galning

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Icarium said:
Send Mats on loan then?
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When Courtois was loaned out he was a young goalkeeper coming from Genk. Ter Stegen at the moment is the same age as Courtois plus he has won a Champions League. Good luck loaning him out. If he leaves, it'll be a sale. I don't see how Ter Stegen is going to accept a loan move in his current situation unless Barça promise him some things.
 
FCBarca

FCBarca

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Icarium

Icarium

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Galning said:
When Courtois was loaned out he was a young goalkeeper coming from Genk. Ter Stegen at the moment is the same age as Courtois plus he has won a Champions League. Good luck loaning him out. If he leaves, it'll be a sale. I don't see how Ter Stegen is going to accept a loan move in his current situation unless Barça promise him some things.
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I can't see it ending well then.
 
Yannik

Yannik

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I think Ter Stegen looks much more comfortable in hte barca goal. He doesn't play every game with total nervousity anymore as if it's his debut
 
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