1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

[BarçaBarça]

He had some amazing saves against Arsenal - and it is really impressive to pull such a performance when he doesn't get regular playing time, which is the most important thing for a keeper. I think he would iron out the few mistanke he has made if he started all games - but right now Bravo just makes fewer mistakes and we should keep him in goal in the league.

I don't think the Bravo-Stegen situation can continue next season if Ter Stegen is unhappy, but I'm not sure if he is?

But maybe here is one of the first chances in a long time to finance some vital transfers (CB, LB-backup, MSN-backup) if we sold Bravo in the summer when he is hot and still have a WC-goalkeeper who only would get better. I know that it is not our usual transfer-policy - we usually get much less for our players than they are worth.

I'm not saying that i am all for selling Bravo, but he would be one of the only players in the squad that I would consider.

 

[mark1nhu]

He is the future, but good enough to be our present too.

If some sacrifice have to be made, then we should preserve our future over the present.

I hope Lucho switch positions next season. We can afford an unsettled Bravo.

 

[TornAndFrayed]

I agree. Said it some months ago, Mats will never accept a third year like this.

 

[serghei]

I agree. Said it some months ago, Mats will never accept a third year like this.

Then he should have made an impression while Bravo was injured in the league. It's immoral from Mats to ask to play in front of a guy who's better than him (in the league). I'd be curious to see Lucho trying to explain benching Claudio Bravo in the league, without being discriminatory about age (age discrimination is as bad as rasism and sexism btw).

Saying Bravo needs to be benched because he is older, even though he's proven he is the best keeper in Spain, is not right no matter how you put it.

I'm hoping Stegen will be smart. He can wait 2 seasons of not playing all games and then become a Barca legend for many years to come, hell, maybe even a decade. If he doesn't wait, he can fuck off for all I care. This is Barca, you earn your place if you can. If you don't, take the easy way out a la Thiago.

 

[George_Costanza]

no need to switch. Last season MATS played 22 games while Bravo 38 games. Just give MATS 5-6 extra Liga games and they are split 50/50. I don't see him complaining about this.

 

[TornAndFrayed]

People seem to forget that barca had every opportunity to play thiago and raise his clause and didn't bother. No two ways of interpreting that.

Bravo isn't necessarily the best keeper in spain, though he's top class for sure. I don't see how in the world age "discrimination" is bad : we could keep bravo for a couple seasons then pray we find another keeper as suited for barça as mats is. For the sake of two seasons with Bravo we'd throw out a potential decade with mats : there is no such downside in selling Bravo.

 

[KingMessi]

I wouldn't bench Bravo. I'd switch the roles next season and the season after that I'd sell him.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Then he should have made an impression while Bravo was injured in the league. It's immoral from Mats to ask to play in front of a guy who's better than him (in the league). I'd be curious to see Lucho trying to explain benching Claudio Bravo in the league, without being discriminatory about age (age discrimination is as bad as rasism and sexism btw).

Saying Bravo needs to be benched because he is older, even though he's proven he is the best keeper in Spain, is not right no matter how you put it.

I'm hoping Stegen will be smart. He can wait 2 seasons of not playing all games and then become a Barca legend for many years to come, hell, maybe even a decade. If he doesn't wait, he can fuck off for all I care. This is Barca, you earn your place if you can. If you don't, take the easy way out a la Thiago.

This ,Bravoo has earned his place as Barca starting GK and he did on the pitch .
I really don't like the whole "future" thing when talking about MATS ,I mean should we bench Iniesta for Roberto because he is aging?
We have one of our best generation ever and MATS is lucky to be part of it ,but there should never be a sacrifice of benching the better GK when we are playing an all time gr8 like this trying to add as many trophies as possible with such gr8 core of legends.the future is now

 

[KingMessi]

Your last sentence there makes no sense with your argument. The future is now would mean you'd play TS instead. Also the difference between TS and Bravo is much smaller than the gap between Roberto and Iniesta.

I'd also like to add that Lucho wouldn't try to sell the role change as "benching" Bravo. If he has any tact, he'd spin it as giving Bravo the opportunity to play in the Champions League.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Your last sentence there makes no sense with your argument. The future is now would mean you'd play TS instead. Also the difference between TS and Bravo is much smaller than the gap between Roberto and Iniesta.

1-May be words betrayed me (not sure) but by future is now I mean that the "right now" future is the kind of we should care about as Barca .talking from the whole team perspective not just for the GK situation .
2-The gap might not be as big (which is why one of them are used as an example ) ,but the gap is clear .and it was more clearer when Marc had to play in the league .

 

[KingMessi]

The funny thing is, this discussion is a glimpse of what would likely happen if we were to bring in one of the young super-talents, like Dybala, to rotate in for MsN.

 

[TornAndFrayed]

Iniesta and Roberto don't share one position. If they did, barca would have to make a choice, yes, or that choice would be made for the club anyway.

Switching roles for bravo and mats is perfect if they agree to it. I personally think it won't happen.

 

[serghei]

We need to respect senior players more. That's all I'm saying. Experience, maturity, leadership, strength of character, why throw that away so easily? For the future? The thing that is certain is the present.

Younger players have to value characters like Iniesta, Bravo, Alves etc. And learn from them. Not see these players as obstacles.

 

[Vlom]

We need to respect senior players more. That's all I'm saying. Experience, maturity, leadership, strength of character, why throw that away so easily? For the future? The thing that is certain is the present.

The seniors ? what are we ? lol
The veterans, sure, other than that, there are plenty of reasons you can find for keeping Bravo in, him being old isn't one of them.

 

[KingMessi]

We need to respect senior players more. That's all I'm saying. Experience, maturity, leadership, strength of character, why throw that away so easily? For the future? The thing that is certain is the present.

I totally agree with you. If it were a perfect world, then everything would stay the same. We'd make deep runs into both competitions every year and everybody would be happy. But it's not like that. And sooner or later we will have to make a choice between the two. After all, both players want what is best for their career. And who can blame them for that.

If it came down to picking between TS and Bravo, I would have to pick TS. I just don't think the risk of having an unreliable goalkeeper after Bravo leaves is worth it.