1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant
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God Serena
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Half of his last six games have been clean sheets. Including Man City. In that same number of games Bravo has 1.
Nice comparison. Different leagues, different teams. Big clean sheets against San Marino and Granada from MATS.
Maybe you want to compare clean sheets between Bravo and MATS while they were at Barca? No? Didn't think so.
mark1nhu
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You mean, when Bravo "always" played with Piqué, Masch and the starting team, while Mats "almost always" played with Mathieu and other replacements?
Oh right, I get it...
mark1nhu
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Bravo was a rare exception of "instant click", which I am very glad to have witnessed.
Valdes would be thrown in front of the bus if "first seasons as starter" was the only factor to take in consideration.
We are luck it wasn't and I don't understand why it needs to be different with Mats.
Like him or not, the very least we should give him is the same patience and trust we always gave to any keeper before him.
Valdes would be thrown in front of the bus if "first seasons as starter" was the only factor to take in consideration.
We are luck it wasn't and I don't understand why it needs to be different with Mats.
Like him or not, the very least we should give him is the same patience and trust we always gave to any keeper before him.
God Serena
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Not even counting irrelevant international fixtures.
One of those clean sheets was against City while Bravo was having (not his first) howler.
BBZ8800
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Valdes started to play when our club was in a total mess and when nothing what we tried worked.
We were so desperate, so low on confidence and without any aspirations for trophies.
In those moments, it was easier to develop a young player and not to get angry on his rookie mistakes.
On the other hand, today we have the one and only Messi, we have MSN and a team who won 4 Cls in a 10 years.
So, NO. We can't wait for a youngster to slowly develop and click in these circumstances.
This is why Bravo (an older player who can click faster) was a much better fit for an era where you need results right away.
So, a Mats-Valdes comparison can't work here at all.
mark1nhu
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Why can't we? Are we losing matches and titles on his fault?
Correct me if I am wrong, but we didn't lose any game on his mistakes alone. Yes, he made some horrible mistakes, but we weren't going to win anyway due to collective failure.
As long as he doesn't harm us (in the sense of knocking us out of titles) we can obviously be patient and give him enough trust to develop his game.
About Bravo... Yeah, but he decided he should earn more and bank in his final career years, while having no competition at all to the spot, instead of staying with us.
"Blame" that entire on him. He chose that.
Didnt know Mathieu and other replacements were getting so much CL time. Or that crap CDR teams were such a threat. But OK.
Against Celta de Vigo Barça lost exclusively because of MATS
God Serena
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No we fucking didn't.
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