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Potroh

New member
You'd be hard pressed to find a keeper who doesn't freeze when the ball is shot in the opposite direction they're about to dive. In such situations you have no choice but to guess which way the ball is going too, that's why you need defenders to at least be there to pressure the shot. Even Bravo in his prime here would have stood there and watched it go in.

Absolutely wrong, sorry.
Keepers are taught since tender age to always keep an eye on the ball and move to the ball's direction or trajectory.
A GK becomes a GK when this reflective chain becomes their most basic instinct.
If a keeper employs an additional decision making process, whether it was worth to move at all (in relation to the possible rate of success) than he is actually loosing valuable microseconds in this additional decision process.
This works diametrically against their reflective instincts and if it becomes a habit, the keeper is doomed by always employing an extra process, that works against his very being as a keeper...

You can always observe this difference in penalty situations, where certain GKs simply jump to one of the possible directions, but others also try to guess the actual direction of the ball. Usually keepers who simply jump, let the ball in, even if they jumped to the good direction, whereas the more reflective keepers are more often able to save a penalty, because they still try to perceive where the ball is.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Ok,he freezes a lot,but this time there is no reason to complain about him freezing.
Ball was shot in opposite direction to his body movement,strong shot from close distance. That was a time that most GKs would freeze tbh.

Fair enough. Even though someone like De Gea has OMG saves even from those distances. And quite often. He is farther from being a top keeper than I anticipated 3 years ago.
 

Neeraj

Senior Member
Fair enough. Even though someone like De Gea has OMG saves even from those distances. And quite often. He is farther from being a top keeper than I anticipated 3 years ago.

I agree. I think at the end of the season we should look at getting a new keeper, provided he doesn't improve. I think we have given him enough time; he just doesn't have that presence.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Fair enough. Even though someone like De Gea has OMG saves even from those distances. And quite often. He is farther from being a top keeper than I anticipated 3 years ago.

1-I think most of DDG saves his body was moving to same direction not the opposite like MATS in this case
2-It is all about expectations really,I have long moved on the idea that MATS will be one of the elite GKs. DDG,Courtois&Oblak has been consistently proving they are the top 3 GKs of his age group probably by some margin and have been playing on high level consistently while MATS was showing flashes.
For that I am not really over reacting with some of his "lack" of saves,I think he will be our no1 for years to come and he will be good enough for that but I don't see him as a top 3 GK in the world and probably will rarely be considered top 5 so I won't bother comparing his save to DDG because I already know who is the better GK.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Should we seriously start looking around for an alternative? If so, who are the potential targets that are realistic? DDG is not please.
 

BarçaBarça

New member
He has been really bad this season. There is a long time between the points-saving actions from him, and he just looks quite lost at times.
Even the play with his feet has been terrible (compared to his standards). There is some excuses for some of the form, but it has been going on for long now.

I really don't think the solution is to replace him. As we saw with Bravo confidence means a lot, and David De Gea who some in here wants instead, was also heavily criticized in his first time at United - remember that! I think he can turn it around, but it has to be sooner rather than later, and it needs to happen before the season ends.
 

Kuchi

Active member
He is completely gone, mentally...no more footwork, no intuition, no confidence to go out on crosses...he's having the biggest meltdown...

Loan Bravo back?
 

Dan1983

Prediction champion 2012-2013
He has been really bad this season. There is a long time between the points-saving actions from him, and he just looks quite lost at times.
Even the play with his feet has been terrible (compared to his standards). There is some excuses for some of the form, but it has been going on for long now.

I really don't think the solution is to replace him. As we saw with Bravo confidence means a lot, and David De Gea who some in here wants instead, was also heavily criticized in his first time at United - remember that! I think he can turn it around, but it has to be sooner rather than later, and it needs to happen before the season ends.
I wouldn't mind Rico from Sevilla.
 

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