1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

[Barcilliant]

The problem with Mats is he's not improving.

I've lost count the number of times he's been beaten at his near post this season.

Too many times he's had no reaction whatsover.

Would like to see some serious competition for the GK spot.

 

[raedkuwait]

wow seeing Neuer performance against madrid you would really tell
the biggggggg difference in class and how a goal keeper can help you
out in big matches.

 

[JamDav1982]

wow seeing Neuer performance against madrid you would really tell
the biggggggg difference in class and how a goal keeper can help you
out in big matches.

He played well but if Mats concedes that second goal to Ronaldo he gets crucified.

 

[Total-Football]

Bad as he might be at goalkeeping,stegen is actually our play maker now. Whenever a barca midfielder or a defender sees an opponent coming he hasten to stagen and the rest form a semi circle around him . Pussy attitude and we dont know where it came from.

 

[Horatio]

Ter Stegen is the least of our worries. I am willing to see him play another season, but at least with a fixed midfield.

 

[God Serena]

Stegen is not a bad goalkeeper. He's the reason we were in La Liga as long as we were and he's the reason we made it to the quarter finals in the first place.

When his defense and his midfield let him down as drastically as they do no keeper in the world will get you the win. Even not counting the one goal he probably should have saved, we were still utterly humiliated as a team.

 

[Behrox]

I imagine Stegen to be crucified in the middle of the Nou Camp if he let the ball pass between his legs like Neuer on the 2nd goal

 

[El Barcelona]

Stegen is not a bad goalkeeper. He's the reason we were in La Liga as long as we were and he's the reason we made it to the quarter finals in the first place.

When his defense and his midfield let him down as drastically as they do no keeper in the world will get you the win. Even not counting the one goal he probably should have saved, we were still utterly humiliated as a team.

Good post and so true. The most stupid thing that we can do in the summer is splashing some money on a 'wc' keeper when our midfield is garbage!

 

[raedkuwait]

Stegen is not a bad goalkeeper. He's the reason we were in La Liga as long as we were and he's the reason we made it to the quarter finals in the first place.

When his defense and his midfield let him down as drastically as they do no keeper in the world will get you the win. Even not counting the one goal he probably should have saved, we were still utterly humiliated as a team.

this is all dont make sense to me at all to be frankly, why dont u include the offense also in there, wtf u talking about, a goal keeper job is to save shots regardless of his defense is good or not or midfield or what aver hi job as a goal keeper is to try to save shots, so if we take your argument
as a correct one then luis suarez or any attacker can go a head and miss scoring chances when they are presented to him, cause, the midfield and the defence and the goal keeper is bad, as an attacker, your job is to score goals when u have the chances to score regardless of what, an nba shooter his job is to shoot and score regardless of all what other players doing, its your job, so u expect us to have a defense that dont allow any shot on goal or what?! barca through out there alight years they always had a defense that is not so strong, but we had valdes and bravos that could stoep up now and then to save those shots, with stegen those shots go in a lot more than they are saved, with our game with juventus they had 8 shots on goal and scored 3 goals , while we had more shots than them but only 4 on target, but buffon saved all of them with 2 saves that are top quality saves, the arguement your presenting dont make sense at all, your a goal keeper that is payed top money , your job is to save shots, if your mind is effected by wither your defense is good or not then u dont deserve that top money at all, your a goal keeper your job is to keep that ball out of the net, neuer made more than 8 amzing saves before letting one in, if ter was munich goal keeper they would at least have conceded 4 goals.

 

[God Serena]

this is all dont make sense to me at all to be frankly, why dont u include the offense also in there, wtf u talking about, a goal keeper job is to save shots regardless of his defense is good or not or midfield or what aver hi job as a goal keeper is to try to save shots, so if we take your argument
as a correct one then luis suarez or any attacker can go a head and miss scoring chances when they are presented to him, cause, the midfield and the defence and the goal keeper is bad, as an attacker, your job is to score goals when u have the chances to score regardless of what, an nba shooter his job is to shoot and score regardless of all what other players doing, its your job, so u expect us to have a defense that dont allow any shot on goal or what?! barca through out there alight years they always had a defense that is not so strong, but we had valdes and bravos that could stoep up now and then to save those shots, with stegen those shots go in a lot more than they are saved, with our game with juventus they had 8 shots on goal and scored 3 goals , while we had more shots than them but only 4 on target, but buffon saved all of them with 2 saves that are top quality saves, the arguement your presenting dont make sense at all, your a goal keeper that is payed top money , your job is to save shots, if your mind is effected by wither your defense is good or not then u dont deserve that top money at all, your a goal keeper your job is to keep that ball out of the net, neuer made more than 8 amzing saves before letting one in, if ter was munich goal keeper they would at least have conceded 4 goals.

If a forward does not have support from midfield they're not going to score very many goals, either. There's a reason our "Best ever attack" isn't scoring anything against PSG, Juve, or Malaga away from home. It's not as simple as "It's their job" to score or to save shots. It's a team sport. If the defense isn't protecting the goalkeeper what are they there for? If the midfield isn't supporting the attack or the defense what are they there for?

Even with the keepers you seem to worship in Valdes and Bravo, they still conceded an alarming number of goals when the defense and midfield failed to step up. It was very rare for us to win a game no matter how well they played, if the rest of the team was in garbage form. Boiling it down to "It's their job" is showing an alarming lack of understanding for how the game works in the first place.

 

[raedkuwait]

this game is a team game, but totally relies on individual performance, and its like a wave, it starts with
individual performance for each and every player, if each and every player do good at his current position
this is will radiate to other player, if every player fails at his current position cause he is thinking other players
at other positions are failing then this is a big problem, tell me when do u have a good, team? or a great team
u have that when every players at his position is doing really well, the more players u have that are doing a good
job at there position the greater team u will have. trust me i understand games alot and i understand many other games
its a team game but relies a lot on individual performance of each player at his position

 

[God Serena]

this game is a team game, but totally relies on individual performance, and its like a wave, it starts with
individual performance for each and every player, if each and every player do good at his current position
this is will radiate to other player, if every player fails at his current position cause he is thinking other players
at other positions are failing then this is a big problem, tell me when do u have a good, team? or a great team
u have that when every players at his position is doing really well, the more players u have that are doing a good
job at there position the greater team u will have. trust me i understand games alot and i understand many other games
its a team game but relies a lot on individual performance of each player at his position

No, you're just wrong. If the game relied solely on individual performances Real Madrid would be the most successful team of this century with their amazing galacticos, not us. Unless it's a ridiculous solo-run from one of our forwards they need to rely on our midfield supplying them the ball in order for them to be able to fulfil their role. Messi doesn't score as often when his midfield is nowhere to be seen. Neither do our other star forwards, either. The same applies to our goalkeeper. It's his "job" to save shots, but if the other team is given free reign to pepper him with wide open shots and free headers he won't be able to do that. The defense is there specifically for the purpose of protecting the goalkeeper. That's *their* job. If they're not doing their job you can't blame the keeper for not being able to do his. And if the defense doesn't have any help from the midfield it's harder for them to do their job. Because it's a team sport. You win and lose as a team. Mats was not the reason we lost that game, not by a longshot. Every one of the goals could have been prevented with better defending, nothing they did to beat our defense was spectacular in any way. I didn't see you anywhere when Bravo was around conceding goals he couldn't have saved spitting this nonsense about it "being his job".

 

[raedkuwait]

when did i say it relies solely on individual palyers?! its a team sport, ter just has the wrong technics his reflexes are bad
he react so slow he jumps and stand in a wrong way in corners and high crosses he is fixed at his lines, barca never had a great defense,, your not getting what i am trying to say, i never said it relies soloely on
individual player, it relies on all team , but each individual has to be good at his position. any how time will tell and u will c that
ter is not good enough for barca

 

[Galning]

wow seeing Neuer performance against madrid you would really tell
the biggggggg difference in class and how a goal keeper can help you
out in big matches.

Like Sevilla at home, PSG, ... kept us in all those games.

Ter Stegen is a good goalkeeper.

 

[God Serena]

when did i say it relies solely on individual palyers?! its a team sport, ter just has the wrong technics his reflexes are bad
he react so slow he jumps and stand in a wrong way in corners and high crosses he is fixed at his lines, barca never had a great defense,, your not getting what i am trying to say, i never said it relies soloely on
individual player, it relies on all team , but each individual has to be good at his position. any how time will tell and u will c that
ter is not good enough for barca

Your exact words were "this game is a team game, but totally relies on individual performance".

At least try to keep up with your own BS.

Mats is good at his position. We lost because the midfield and the defense did nothing to help him. There is no "That's his job" nonsense that you're spouting. Even on the one goal he could have saved, as a defender there is no justification for allowing such a shot to even be allowed, especially when you're just standing around marking nobody as Umtiti and Pique were when the shot occurred.