KingLeo10
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No wonder you're not employed at any level of football despite claiming to be a genius. I don't usually hand these out but...
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No wonder you're not employed at any level of football despite claiming to be a genius. I don't usually hand these out but...
Windhook
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I don't think anyone is on the opinion MATS being the worst. He had great two first seasons, but from then on he had no competition, GKs signed in backup role for MATS playing in Copa matches.
From my childhood memory Busi's father Carles Busquets was the worst GK I watched, some ridiculous goals conceded by the man. I consider him the worst.
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I really don't know whether Bobo is a very elaborate troll or just a goof. If the former is true, he is a genius troll.
soul24rage
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I think we should play Busi as a GK since his passing and vision is good. Might solve our GK problem.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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I think sometimes he is really serious and sometimes he says something controversial to get all the attention
KingLeo10
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He's taken Amoebagician's place as the most elaborate troll on this forum now that the latter has overplayed his hand and devolved into an angry mess lately (on EV topics).
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Bobo32
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It should be a bigger priority to make sure the defenders can recycle possession through you, and make sure buildup is perfect. The team should control the ball, and the shots that are going through.
With 3ATB a lot of that gets lost of course, unfortunately.
Of course 0 shot stopping ability wouldn't work, S.Busquets wouldn't be the ultimate keeper, but most keepers can save shots, the difference isn't so great there. Donnarumma would be a terrible keeper for Barcelona, even if he was a slightly better shot stopper than Mats.
Valdes was maybe a better keeper for Barcelona than Stegen, after all. He wouldn't make it at other top clubs, he struggled to be third in the NT while playing for the best team of all time. His two strengths were his feet and his 1v1 timing. Ter Stegen would play for another top club if he didn't play for Barcelona.
serghei
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The importance of passing for the keeper has been blown way out of proportion. This is not Pep's Barca who had all of these extremely technical and complicated build-up patterns. For someone like EV or Koeman, it doesn't even matter that much.
All Stegen does is pass to the open man. Sometimes once every 2-3 games he makes 1 great longer pass. 1 fucking pass in games. And we maybe score a goal from that 1 pass 5% of the time.
Meanwhile, he has a 77% conceded goals / shots ratio.. Or so I've read today.
All Stegen does is pass to the open man. Sometimes once every 2-3 games he makes 1 great longer pass. 1 fucking pass in games. And we maybe score a goal from that 1 pass 5% of the time.
Meanwhile, he has a 77% conceded goals / shots ratio.
. Or so I've read today.
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KingLeo10
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Ability to stop 1 on 1s was even more important for Pep's Barcelona since we played an ultra aggressive high line. VV was actually a beast on most nights (especially in the big games), and the only reason he didn't get plaudits is because prime Iker was even better at shot stopping...and their primes coincided. MATS is nowhere in that league when it comes to the basics of GKing.
Bobo32
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What do you know about my employment?No wonder you're not employed at any level of football despite claiming to be a genius. I don't usually hand these out but...
I never claimed to be a genius, I'm mostly saying obvious things, and having opinions in line with Xavi, Cruyff or Pep, probably.
It's a bit silly sitting here and discussing football, and having opinions about a team I have no insight into, but only watch the games from the outside. I agree about that, but it's a bit fun sometimes.
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I am not arguing about what is best for a pretty shit team led by Koeman, but what should be the priorities for a Barcelona looking to be treble contenders again, obviously.
serghei
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Let it go man, the most important is to be consistently good in the basic aspects of goalkeeping: commanding your defense, don't let easy goals in, be somewhat reliable at crosses (most keepers have difficulties with crosses, even great ones, but with Stegen it's almost a disease).
Then we can talk about important bonus points, and this is where your passing ability comes in. Vision? Come on... passing for a goalkeeper doesn't qualify as vision. 95% of the time the solution is the obvious pass, it's just a matter of being technically competent to make it.
Then we can talk about important bonus points, and this is where your passing ability comes in. Vision? Come on... passing for a goalkeeper doesn't qualify as vision. 95% of the time the solution is the obvious pass, it's just a matter of being technically competent to make it.
serghei
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He was a clown at times too, and had Stegen-like games as well. But he also saved his team in big games far more often than Stegen.
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