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CatalinR10

Senior Member
No, he isn't and a lot in Germany are quite baffled about this.

Löw picked Zieler :D


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linetty

Guest
Yeah, because it's just a World Cup, right?
Right. Why sit on the bench there while he can train in Barcelona and get prepared to a such difficult job that is awaiting him?

He is just 22 and I can bet my money on that he will go for a World Cup as a 1st choice keeper one day.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Why would Low pick Stegen to go to Brazil?

- the young gun has the potential to surpass his best keeper. they need no drama during WC. Weidenfeller will play the role of an obedient doggy while Neuer plays every game in and out.
- that Hannover keeper is probably just happy to be able to go to a samba club on a day off. you always make some pointless selection for that third spot logically because they won't fight for anything.
- he's 22. he has about 5 more World Cups ahead of him if he lives up to the potential.

Same reason as to why Del Bosque doesn't take Lopez to international games. Don't take someone who will be out of team's mould. Nor is Stegen losing anything by it. Let him sit in Barcelona learning the language instead.

Low knows what he is doing.
 

BorussiaBarcelona

New member
Why would Low pick Stegen to go to Brazil?

- the young gun has the potential to surpass his best keeper. they need no drama during WC. Weidenfeller will play the role of an obedient doggy while Neuer plays every game in and out.
- that Hannover keeper is probably just happy to be able to go to a samba club on a day off. you always make some pointless selection for that third spot logically because they won't fight for anything.
- he's 22. he has about 5 more World Cups ahead of him if he lives up to the potential.

Same reason as to why Del Bosque doesn't take Lopez to international games. Don't take someone who will be out of team's mould. Nor is Stegen losing anything by it. Let him sit in Barcelona learning the language instead.

Low knows what he is doing.

1) There was no way ter Stegen would've done anything that would've been bad for the teamspirit during that tournament because he knew that he'd be the #3 keeper, if part of the team.
He also lauded Weidenfeller three days ago saying that he deserved to be on the team, so there's no chance anything would happen.

2) Yep, Zieler's known as a quite guy who's just happy to be part of it.

3) The bad thing about that is that this is the second time ter Stegen got snubbed just ahead of a tournament and lost that spot to Zieler. Pretty much the same thing happened two years ago, when he was cut just before the tournament, while Zieler was kept as the 3rd goalkeeper.


Löw knowing what he's doing is questioned because of the reasoning behind his moves. He stated that form(Zieler's nowher near ter Stegen or Leno during this season) and fitness was very important and he also said that he wanted to take a young keeper for the future to that tournament.
The last one was especially said by Löw to a question why he took Zieler and not ter Stegen or Leno and that's just a slap in the face to both of those great young goalkeepers as Zieler's a solid Bundesliga keeper but nothing more.


BTW: ter Stegen's been learning spanish for quite some time, so a couple weeks more won't make a big difference.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
When Germany crash out of the WC, Löw will deservedly be on the chopping block...So while Ter Stegen won't be his worst decision, it won't compare to those he has & will make
 

El Gato

Villarato!
1) There was no way ter Stegen would've done anything that would've been bad for the teamspirit during that tournament because he knew that he'd be the #3 keeper, if part of the team.
He also lauded Weidenfeller three days ago saying that he deserved to be on the team, so there's no chance anything would happen.

Not that way. Stegen has the ambition to be the #1, Roman or Zieler do not. That's the difference.

BorussiaBarcelona said:
3) The bad thing about that is that this is the second time ter Stegen got snubbed just ahead of a tournament and lost that spot to Zieler. Pretty much the same thing happened two years ago, when he was cut just before the tournament, while Zieler was kept as the 3rd goalkeeper.

Again, what's bad about it? It's a classic thing to do before a big tournament. He strengthened the position of his best keeper. As much as Stegen deserved to go ahead of 3rd keeper, he would have added nothing to the team and that's what international coaches keep in mind. So why take him or Leno?

BorussiaBarcelona said:
BTW: ter Stegen's been learning spanish for quite some time, so a couple weeks more won't make a big difference.

Are you bilingual? Because if you're not then I can see why you don't see the profit in this.
 

Trickykid

Active member
Right. Why sit on the bench there while he can train in Barcelona and get prepared to a such difficult job that is awaiting him?

He is just 22 and I can bet my money on that he will go for a World Cup as a 1st choice keeper one day.

You underestimate the importance of being part of the show that is the WC. Everyone, including certain backups would love to be there, if not for playing, then for the experience alone. Claiming that someone who could make a reasonable case for going to Brazil, only to get snubbed, doesn't give a fuck about it is just silly.
 

BorussiaBarcelona

New member
Not that way. Stegen has the ambition to be the #1, Roman or Zieler do not. That's the difference.

He does not have the ambition to be the #1 in this years WC(Neuer's the clear cut #1) and it doesn't matter what Weidenfeller or Zieler have in plan for their future.

Again, what's bad about it? It's a classic thing to do before a big tournament. He strengthened the position of his best keeper. As much as Stegen deserved to go ahead of 3rd keeper, he would have added nothing to the team and that's what international coaches keep in mind. So why take him or Leno?

There's no need to strengthen Neuer's position.
He's the clear #1 in Germany's goal, the "world's best goalkeeper" and playing for Bayern Munich.
And if you're playing for Bayern and are pretty good then you're going to play for the NT. That's just how the politics in Germany work and why guys from other teams(even the Dortmund players) have a hard time playing.

Taking Leno or ter Stegen would be good because they're great young goalkeepers and experiencing such a tournament(even as #3) would be good for their future.

Though, with Löw you never know. He prefers guys from his region(Freiburg, Stuttgart, Hoffenheim) and doesn't seem to be quite as interested in guys playing for Gladbach.
I mean, he also didn't nominate Max Kruse, who's the 2nd best German scorer of the Bundesliga(behind Reus, with 12 goals and 12 assists) even though they had Kruse shoot promos for the NT on Tuesday and told him his medical would be on Thursday.

Are you bilingual? Because if you're not then I can see why you don't see the profit in this.

Well, I'm a German writing in english on these forums.
Though, we're talking about a week or so and that's not going to be a big difference given that he's learning the language for quite some time and will be in Spain for what hopefully be many years.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
It would be hard to imagine it not being a disappointment for the player but he strikes me as the sort that will not let it weigh him down...Mats seems a player with lots of ambition so it's only natural to be dejected...Only plausible explanation for his exclusion is if Löw feared his personality would be a negative influence but that seems far fetched concerning how many speak so highly of him...I don't follow German football enough but you have to wonder if there is regional/club bias from Löw...I remember Kießling being ignored often as well

Even Valdes had similar issues and had to wait far too long, IMO, to finally earn regular callups - even Del Bosque intimated that the usual suspects looked to tarnish his character and keep him off the NT
 

ebieymjunior

Senior Member
They could have discussed it for a long time. As much as going to the world cup is an amazing opportunity, there are positives to staying and getting used to the city. It means he'll be among the first to be available in preseason and that's really important.
 

Egert

Estonian Culé
According to MD, he wants to be at the season finale vs Atleti at Camp Nou.

It may be true because after this weekend the season ends in Bundesliga and he said he will announce his next club after the season. What better way to announce it that announce it in Barca.
 
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linetty

Guest
Ter Stegen could tomorrow announce his transfer to Barcelona in a TV interview. He would want to attend Barcelona-Atletico next week. [md]
 

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