10 - Lionel Messi - v1

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Barcafan 2304

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If he is referring to the one where he beat a couple of players in the 2nd half then waqs brought down by the last man then yes, it was a penalty

Actually, going to correct myself. Just watched it back 3 times and yes, a good case certainly to say he played the ball. Also, Messi's reaction seemed to be moredisappointment that he did not pull the trigger than outrage at not getting a penalty so have to call myself out on that one!
 

veryfatchocobo

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Out of all the people that would argue about the amazing Nesta tackle, Bojan would be the last guy on my list to think it would be a pk.................
 
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mitkoa7x

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Out of all the people that would argue about the amazing Nesta tackle, Bojan would be the last guy on my list to think it would be a pk.................

Every1 is entitled to their oppinion.
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Hatem Ben Arfa

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/sports/soccer/14iht-soccer14.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

Ronaldo May Look Like the Best, but There Is Someone Better
By ROB HUGHES
Published: September 13, 2011

LONDON — If science could craft the ideal soccer player, the outcome might well resemble Cristiano Ronaldo.


He has the film-star looks. He is tall — 1.86 meters, or about 6-foot-1 — strong in the upper body, slender and swift below the waist. He has skill to burn and the desire of a peacock to display it bravely, often under aggressive attempts to kick him off his game.

The fact that Ronaldo might not be the best soccer player on earth — and that a comparative lightweight, Leo Messi, consistently beats him to the world player awards — spurs the Portuguese to seek self-improvement.

But what is inside the superstar? What would you find if you could break down the components and analyze them under laboratory conditions? In Ronaldo’s case, there is now a documentary trying to do exactly that.

“Castrol Edge Presents Ronaldo Tested to the Limit” is a commercial film. Nobody would get access to conduct such experiments on a player of his stature without the commercial imperative.

Even so, the made-for-television documentary has some compelling insights. Ronaldo breaking glass panels by kicking a ball at 130 kilometers, or 80 miles, per hour; Ronaldo shooting literally in the dark; Ronaldo with electrodes attached to all parts of his body and Ronaldo wearing an eye contraption said to measure the speed at which his brain reacts to movement, are all fascinating setups.

Of course, there is commerce as much as science behind this. Sean Rahaley, the product’s global brand manager, claims that, “By testing Ronaldo to his absolute limit, just like we do with the product, the film showcases the core brand values of Castrol Edge — strength and performance — in an entertaining way.” Entertaining, it certainly is.

The British university researchers and sports biomechanics analysts who spent weeks devising tests for the documentary had one full day with the star in Madrid. They worked him more than his coach, José Mourinho, might.

Stripped down, it was easy to show that he has the long legs of a sprinter, the leanness of a distance runner, yet the enhanced upper torso of a light-heavyweight boxer.

High-speed cameras confirm what we see of him in performance when his feet move at speeds that even the most practiced of defenders find bewildering. In one eight-second burst, he is filmed performing 13 moves, step-overs and spins.

He wears an eye-tracking device that uses infrared technology to detect what he is actually looking at during this test. “He did not look at the ball,” said sports researcher Zoe Wimshurst, now of the University of Chichester in England and herself a junior international player in field hockey. “He as looking at the feet of the opponents and subconsciously assessing opportunities and moves.” The tools available to the scientists can measure human reaction time down to 200 milliseconds. So when a proficient amateur player is asked to volley or head a ball driven toward him — with the light switched off at the instant the player providing the cross strikes the ball — he misses it by a good yard.

Ronaldo makes contact and scores a goal with each of three attempts at the same experiment. “It’s almost as if he is doing the maths in his head,” Wimshurst explained. “Although he probably couldn’t describe it.” This much, Ronaldo agrees. He knows that his reaction time is part gift, and part the result of countless times practicing, practicing, practicing.

His anatomy and his mind-set are gifts from his parents, though neither of them was an athlete. His love of the ball, and pronounced love of what he can do with it, are products of a childhood obsession that appears to have been self-generated even before Sporting Lisbon scouted him and took him from his Madeira Island home when he was 12.

Already obviously gifted, already willing to accept expert instruction, and crucially left alone to develop his individuality, the boy had entered the university of pro soccer.

The scientists, and the rest of us, are trying to play catch-up.

We are amazed, but not surprised, that he can strike a still ball at 20 meters with a force that shatters glass plates and with a speed measured at 130 kilometers per hour. The so-called Ronaldo knuckleball, where he hits a free kick with the flat of his foot rather than caressing it with his instep, still confounds even the researchers because he manages to impart swerve and spin, laterally as well as vertically, on the ball, as it deceives goalkeepers through the air.

And at that point in the fascinating hourlong documentary, a viewer might think: Thank God for the mystery. Thank goodness this is still a sport and not a science.

Thankfully, indeed, it is also a team sport in which players’ performances are subjective. Ronaldo is mighty close to a record of scoring a goal for every one of the 93 games he has played for his latest club, Real Madrid.

However, he is not, as Castrol’s commentary would have us believe, the ultimate player. Messi exceeds him because Messi creates as many goals for others as he scores for himself.

How do we know this? Castrol employs the statisticians who compile world rankings for FIFA. According to the September rankings, Messi is on top on account of the 66 goals he has scored or assisted in 46 appearances over the past 12 months for Barcelona.

Mario Gómez, of Bayern Munich, edged Ronaldo out of second place because, while each scored seven hat tricks over the year, Gómez had a significantly higher ratio of goals per attempts.

And there is a flaw in the Castrol ratings, just as there will always be flaws in applying science too intrusively to art. The rankings proudly proclaim to assess the best players in the game — but data is compiled only from the top five European leagues.

That means Neymar, the young Brazilian, is not included. It means his compatriot Leandro Damião, who has scored 39 goals over the past 12 months for Internacional in Brazil, and who is hot at the moment with 14 goals in 13 games, is anonymous, according to the ranking.

As to crafting, or even cloning, a perfect player. Castrol cannot do that, but Ronaldo has given it his best attempt. He has a son, Cristiano Jr., born just over a year ago to a surrogate mother, and now being raised by Ronaldo’s mother and sisters in Portugal.
 

Theconomist

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while a great player he's not even the best Portuguese player ever
20 years from now he'll have the same status as the likes of eric cantona
 
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tariqo

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argentina got the chance from 1998 to 2007

they got the best team & players but they fucked up ugly

so now they only got messi & 1 player can't beat teams by himself

i hope pepe will not allowed him to play any friendlies games , the world best player wasting time with his NT
 

gingerless

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great analysis, didn't notice that stuff before. how he fights to get that ball back which then ultimately leads to the goal is a prime example of how hard work always pays off
 

Moe

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hattrick and 2 assists, would've had another 2 goals and 2 assists if it wasn't for the post/bar and no one is surprised anymore :lol:
 
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