10 - Lionel Messi - v3

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DinhoR10

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When he broke the Cesar record: 3 goals vs Granada
When he broke the El Clasico record: 3 goals against madrid
When he broke Zarra´s record: 3 goals against Sevilla
When he broke Raul´s record: 3 goals against Apoel

Batistuta: well, you know the drill.

Thats the last big record he can probably break right? World Cup top scorer is out of the picture since Muller is too young to compete with and Messi got his scoring ways started too late.

Edit: @DonAndres I think the reason he's still so involved is because the midfield is working better so he doesnt have to be running back by Bartra/Pique to pick up the ball and he is able to be in scoring positions Ala his three goals today.
 

evilhita666

Barçapocalypse NOW!
Idk who asked for the statistic but I recall that someone did and here it is: He ran 8.62km tonight (lower than every outfield starter aside from CB's and Rakitic who was subbed) but he was a lot more involved than what that stat suggests with 127 touches (tied with Masch for 2nd most touches only behind Alves).

This goes to show that the distance covered stat isn't too important unless it's dipping dangerously low (Pinto zones). Messi having more touches, involvement, and responsibility with less exertion is spectacular IMO.

That moment when he misplaced a pass and ran all the way back to our corner flag harassing the Apoel player made me smile more than his hat-trick...
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
That would take what 12 goals? 2012 Messi could probably do it though. 7 games is more than enough.

It takes luck, a good team, and a good group stage draw with weak opponents. But again, Messi could probably play at the cup in 2022. He'd be 35. I can still see him going at that age.
 

DinhoR10

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It takes luck, a good team, and a good group stage draw with weak opponents. But again, Messi could probably play at the cup in 2022. He'd be 35. I can still see him going at that age.

I think if Lamela comes good on his promise, they find someone to replace Mascherano (Although he doesnt seem to be slowing down), and Di Maria/Aguero/Some other striker is good and he has his pace, a World cup win and the record isnt out of reach.
 

KingMessi

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Happy Messi is best Messi.
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
I have to share this because I've been laughing for 1 minute straight after stumbling on this browsing reddit. This is Catalinutz level of epicness:

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BerkeleyBernie

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Idk who asked for the statistic but I recall that someone did and here it is: He ran 8.62km tonight (lower than every outfield starter aside from CB's and Rakitic who was subbed) but he was a lot more involved than what that stat suggests with 127 touches (tied with Masch for 2nd most touches only behind Alves).

This goes to show that the distance covered stat isn't too important unless it's dipping dangerously low (Pinto zones). Messi having more touches, involvement, and responsibility with less exertion is spectacular IMO.

Yeah, that was me over in another thread. Where'd you get the stat? I'd like to see it compared to his distance in other games, as he is almost always the lowest outfield starter. I think he is usually around 8 km or lower. The point being, as you have also expressed, more touches for Messi is what's needed for much better results.

So part of that might be a bit more exertion than usual. But, looking at the heat map for this game (compared to other games), a few things stand out:

1. He spent much more time towards the right wing. This obviously puts him closer to other players than when he walks up front, so he sees more touches there.
2. His game is much more vertical, rather than flat, when he is center. Messi is at his best running at players.

So his right side positioning means both that he sees more touches and has more opportunities to run at defenders (with Suarez keeping the centerbacks from coming out). It also has the MASSIVE benefit of keeping Alves from crossing as much :lol: , as there is nothing Alves loves better than to play 1-2s with Messi.
 

BerkeleyBernie

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Finally feels like RW Messi is a serious option for the team. Been waiting for this to happen since the early Villa days

Yep. I think this game will dissuade him of any concerns he might have of being less involved if he plays less centrally- the opposite is true. Suarez is the ideal CF to create space for a right-side Messi.
 

KyletheMuslim

Guardiolista
Yep. I think this game will dissuade him of any concerns he might have of being less involved if he plays less centrally- the opposite is true. Suarez is the ideal CF to create space for a right-side Messi.
Exactly, defenders stick to suarez like a fly to stale food, especially since he plays with his back to goal.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
Calender years stats as of now :

Messi : 52 goals and 21 assists in 61 Apps

Ronaldo: 54 goals and 17 assists in 53 Apps

They have almost the same stats. So much For Ronaldo easily winning the ballon d'or. Even if you follow the media logic ( only goals matter) , I dont see why Ronaldo "deserves" the ballon d'or
 

putogusiluz8

The Pale One
Exactly, defenders stick to suarez like a fly to stale food, especially since he plays with his back to goal.
Except Suarez is anything but stale. But I agree South Americans strikers are usually fantastic with their back against the goal, Suarez is no exception as he showed today.

Question for ya'll, how good is Suarez at heading the ball?
 
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