10 - Lionel Messi - v3

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Very interesting read Flavia, but i think that Messi still has the same style in kicking a penalty (GK dependent)..He still tries to fool the GK, it just seems that it is not working this season. Maybe he should just shoot a penalty with power in the top corners, so he can be sure that it will be a goal. Im sure he has the ability to do this.
His penalty yesterday wasnt that bad though, i thought it was a good save by Hart.
 
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Anybody care to translate?

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Flavia said:
"Messi has changed the way of kicking penalties this season"

Ben Lyttleton, a penalty-kicker expert and the writer of the book "Twelve Yards, the art and psychology of the perfect penalty", has analyzed for Weloba the problems that Messi is having this 2014-2015 season with the penalties.The writer doesn't doubt: "Messi has changed the strategy to kick penaltis this season". Before this season, Messi "did a slow run up to the ball, looked to the goalkeeper and decided at the last moment. He is technically amazing and mentally very good".

Ben Lyttleton: "Why he has changed the strategy? That's the big question"

Lionel Messi all penalty miss in his career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_y6lrdx9J0

The expert explains that there are two ways of kicking a penalty: "being goalkeeper dependent or a goalkeeper independent". Messi, in the past, was a "goalkeeper dependent". It means that he kicked the ball looking at the goalkeeper until the last moment and he finally kicked it to the other way. "Balotelli, for example, also does it this way".

Despite that, this season he has missed the penaltis against Levante, Atlético de Madrid and Manchester City in a "goalkeeper independent way". "Alan Shearer kicked the penalties in a goalkeeper independent way, as well as Rickie Lambert or Vidal". Why did he change the strategy?

As our expert says, "Messi had his own strategy during the last seasons, but I don't know why he has changed it". In fact, Messi missed a penalty last season in La Liga against Betis in the 32 fixture. In that occasion Messi did it in a "goalkeeper dependent way". Moreover, during the World Cup "he kicked the penalties in a goalkeeper dependent way, and he scored. He did it perfectly".

Here you have some of the penalties Messi kicked in the past. You must watch that he did it in a "goalkeeper dependent way":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G_kzc_iBB4

And now what?

Lyttleton accepts that "Messi had a routine. When things are not working, you try to change the routine". After missing three out of six penalties this season, could be Messi mentally weak? “Score just the 50% is horrible!” assured the writer of "Twelve Yards, the art and psychology of the perfect penalty".

Lyttleton reminds, “Maradona was a bad penalty kicker. He missed five penalties in a row when he played in Boca Juniors… Someone in Barça must prevent Messi to miss three in a row… As more he miss, more pressure he has”.

Neymar, penalty kicker?

Lyttleton proposal is that “Neymar should kick the penalties in a bit, despite he missed the one against Villareal”. In fact, he accepts that “if Neymar had scored against Villareal, everything would be easier”. Messi should kick “an easy one to have confidence. Maybe Messi is feeling anxious… Maybe the relationship with Luis Enrique makes his pressure bigger”, reminds Littleton.
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wtf, why does it comes out after the recent miss. This time it was actually again a psychological game too as last time messi beat hart he hit the penalty straight down the middle while hart dived to his left. This time messi hit to his left. I am damn sure, both had this in mind. Hart just repeated his last effort. And its also worth mentioning, It was an excellent penalty. Credit goes to hart for stopping it.
Its just the follow through miss, which was dis appointing.
 
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Butaan4barca said:
wtf, why does it comes out after the recent miss. It was an excellent penalty. Credit goes to hart for stopping it. Its just the follow through miss, which was dis appointing.
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It wasnt anything close to an 'excellent penalty'.

It wasnt accurate and hit at good height for Hart who read all the way where Messi was putting it.
 
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Butaan4barca said:
wtf, why does it comes out after the recent miss. It was an excellent penalty. Credit goes to hart for stopping it. Its just the follow through miss, which was dis appointing.
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Not even close to be called an excellent penalty, even I knew where he was going to place it. As predictable as it gets.

Not even worth commenting on the following open net miss although it was hilarious. Takes a lot to miss that, especially considering he could've simply hit it with his either foot.
 
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linetty said:
Not even close to be called an excellent penalty, even I knew where he was going to place it. As predictable as it gets.

Not even worth commenting on the following open net miss although it was hilarious. Takes a lot to miss that, especially considering he could've simply hit it with his either foot.
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i have edited my comment to add why i think it was a good idea to hit to hart's left side
 
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linetty said:
Not even close to be called an excellent penalty, even I knew where he was going to place it. As predictable as it gets.

Not even worth commenting on the following open net miss although it was hilarious. Takes a lot to miss that, especially considering he could've simply hit it with his either foot.
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Believe me or not, Even i had the hunch that he was going to hit there and it would be saved.
 
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I was talking with my mother how Messi used to always shoot penalties to the lower right corner, and how he had stopped once he got 2 stopped consecutively or something similar. Then he took the penalty to the lower right corner and got it stopped.
 
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Gasgas

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Butaan4barca said:
wtf, why does it comes out after the recent miss. This time it was actually again a psychological game too as last time messi beat hart he hit the penalty straight down the middle while hart dived to his left. This time messi hit to his left. I am damn sure, both had this in mind. Hart just repeated his last effort. And its also worth mentioning, It was an excellent penalty. Credit goes to hart for stopping it.
Its just the follow through miss, which was dis appointing.
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With all respect That was an awful penalty
 
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