10 - Lionel Messi - v3

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Wouldn't surprise me if he had gone into the dressing room and cried. He's a winner and he would have felt that he let the team down even despite playing amazing for the rest of the match. That's what makes the greats great. They always strive for perfection and anything less they feel like they have let the team down.


I sensed the same thing, he was already crying lying down on the field. Very sad, because he was so magic again!:wub:

But this :
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Hahaha:party1:
 

likeafire

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People are making too big a deal out of messi missing a penalty. Who cares if he missed the penalty, its just luck anyway.

The real big thing is his diving header which was an open goal.

But this will only matter if Man city somehow beat us at the nou camp.
 

raki

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People are making too big a deal out of messi missing a penalty. Who cares if he missed the penalty, its just luck anyway.

The real big thing is his diving header which was an open goal.

But this will only matter if Man city somehow beat us at the nou camp.

Penalties are not luck. It´s efficiency and training. Fliping a coin is luck.
 

Kerrybai

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He does't have much luck in England ( No goals from open play at an English ground ) However he makes up for it with his 2 CL final goals against 2 great United teams, as well as demolishing Arsenal at the Camp Nou. I still feel he has unfinished business though, Chelsea being his main target.
 

Stric

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Penalties are not luck. It´s efficiency and training. Fliping a coin is luck.

Very wrong. Normally, the keeper doesn't know which way the ball will go, and the penalty taker doesn't know which way the keeper will dive. There's very few possibilities and if the keeper and the ball end up going the same side, the chances of the ball going into the net drop drastically. That's luck. Of course, knowing how to take the penalty (and how to save one) plays an important role to begin with, but saying there's no luck involved is simply wrong. Luck or chance, whichever way you want to put it.
 
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Flavia

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Very wrong. Normally, the keeper doesn't know which way the ball will go, and the penalty taker doesn't know which way the keeper will dive. There's very few possibilities and if the keeper and the ball end up going the same side, the chances of the ball going into the net drop drastically. That's luck. Of course, knowing how to take the penalty (and how to save one) plays an important role to begin with, but saying there's no luck involved is simply wrong. Luck or chance, whichever way you want to put it.

Well taken penalties are unstopabble. I've heard more than one gk say that. Even if they pick the right side, if the shot was well taken, it will go in. Luck is involved for bad taken ones.
 

DonAK

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Let Rakitic have a go sometimes too. Maybe he'll smash it in unlike our other players who either want to walk it in or start to dance before the shot is even taken(Neyboy).
 

Stric

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Well taken penalties are unstopabble. I've heard more than one gk say that. Even if they pick the right side, if the shot was well taken, it will go in. Luck is involved for bad taken ones.

Simply not true. Let's say that the taker makes the perfect shot, sharply towards one of the top corners, high-speed. That's nearly impossible to stop, the most difficult scenario. However, if the keeper decides not to wait that extra split second and jumps as soon as possible towards the same place the ball is going (unknowingly, because he can't afford to wait and see), he can take it down (granted he's big enough to reach it). And that's chance. He decided ahead of time. Most well taken penalties go in because the keeper either dived too slow/too late, or dived the wrong way.

It's one thing to miss a penalty, that is, miss the entire goal. It's another to have a penalty saved by the keeper.
 
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cbfpaulinho4

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Well taken penalties are unstopabble. I've heard more than one gk say that. Even if they pick the right side, if the shot was well taken, it will go in. Luck is involved for bad taken ones.

i am surprised i agree with you on something, lol.
 
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Flavia

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Simply not true. Let's say that the taker makes the perfect shot, sharply towards one of the top corners, high-speed. That's nearly impossible to stop, the most difficult scenario. However, if the keeper decides not to wait that extra split second and jumps as soon as possible towards the same place the ball is going (unknowingly, because he can't afford to wait and see), he can take it down. And that's chance. He decided ahead of time. Most well taken penalties go in because the keeper either dived too slow/too late, or dived the wrong way.

It's one thing to miss a penalty, that is, miss the entire goal. It's another to have a penalty saved by the keeper.

The ball moves faster, Stric. I haven't seen a save like this one you're describing. And unless you're a famous gk for defending penalties, I stick with the gks I heard this from. They are/were specialists in defending them.
 

Kerrybai

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Well taken penalties are unstopabble. I've heard more than one gk say that. Even if they pick the right side, if the shot was well taken, it will go in. Luck is involved for bad taken ones.


Best penalty iv'e ever seen, scored by a keeper, and no keeper in the world could save this.
 
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