How can it be the greatest prize when not everyone has a fair chance of winning, even competing for, it?
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How can it be the greatest prize when not everyone has a fair chance of winning, even competing for, it?
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KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
Indeed. Some of the greatest players have never played a world cup.
The World Cup isn't even as great a prize as the Champions League. Some of this generation's greatest players don't even get the opportunity to play in the World Cup. Like Gareth Bale, for instance. Scores the winner in the Champions League final but doesn't even come close to getting to play in the WC, although Iran does.
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
Ryan Giggs for example as well.
footyfan
Calma, calma
The World Cup is definitively the greatest prize in world football. The value attached to any trophy is determined by the perception of those who watch it and participate in it, and by far the majority of football players and viewers will agree that the World Cup can be called the greatest prize in world football.
Ergo, it is the greatest prize in world football.
Maybe you should go and ask Xavi or Iniesta what they think. Both of them have said multiple times that the greatest night of their lives was the World Cup final in 2010.
Ergo, it is the greatest prize in world football.
Maybe you should go and ask Xavi or Iniesta what they think. Both of them have said multiple times that the greatest night of their lives was the World Cup final in 2010.
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Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
World Cup is the most prestigious prize in football. You have the patriotic element of representing your country; the rarity element of the tournament being every 4 years instead of yearly; the exclusivity element of so few different winners in history; the exposure element of it being the most watched event in the world. It just simply incredibly prestigious.
It's true due to technology, exposure and growth of the sport, domestic football has ascended incredibly in recent years. 20 years ago football couldn't reach everywhere and the World Cup was the only exposure most places got to the game. That is not so today. Club football is bigger, better and more broad reaching than ever, and that has increased the importance of domestic titles and intra-continental cups by a lot. However the World Cup still remains the most prestigious football competition out there.
All that being said though, WC is not a fair tournament to define a legacy or judge a player. It is an incredibly unfair tournament where only a handful of countries actually have a legitimate shot of winning it. It is a short tournament, 7 games at most for the 4 finalist, in a 1 month span. Every single game has huge influence in the outcome of the tournament, so lucky breaks or bad bounces have big consequences. Luck, temporary form, and overall team talent and depth make up a very very large part of who will ultimately win it. If some key player gets injured or just happens to be out of form temporarily for some reason, there go your chances.
It is a poor tournament to judge individual talent and it is a poor tournament to define legacies. Last 5 winners for instances dating back to 1998 (France, Brazil, Italy, Spain and Germany) have all been completely stacked teams from top to bottom, had great depth of talent, and even then needed luck along the way to help them through.
It's true due to technology, exposure and growth of the sport, domestic football has ascended incredibly in recent years. 20 years ago football couldn't reach everywhere and the World Cup was the only exposure most places got to the game. That is not so today. Club football is bigger, better and more broad reaching than ever, and that has increased the importance of domestic titles and intra-continental cups by a lot. However the World Cup still remains the most prestigious football competition out there.
All that being said though, WC is not a fair tournament to define a legacy or judge a player. It is an incredibly unfair tournament where only a handful of countries actually have a legitimate shot of winning it. It is a short tournament, 7 games at most for the 4 finalist, in a 1 month span. Every single game has huge influence in the outcome of the tournament, so lucky breaks or bad bounces have big consequences. Luck, temporary form, and overall team talent and depth make up a very very large part of who will ultimately win it. If some key player gets injured or just happens to be out of form temporarily for some reason, there go your chances.
It is a poor tournament to judge individual talent and it is a poor tournament to define legacies. Last 5 winners for instances dating back to 1998 (France, Brazil, Italy, Spain and Germany) have all been completely stacked teams from top to bottom, had great depth of talent, and even then needed luck along the way to help them through.
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I still personally find the CL to be a greater prize (And something worth bragging about), but that is a solid point.
Again, only true for the citizens and players of the 6-8 countries that routinely make up the last 4 teams of the WC. How about how the rest of the world feels, then? Isn't football the global game?
Do you think Zlatan cries himself to sleep knowing he'll never lift a WC? Eto'o? Platini? Their legacies are secure as they can literally do nothing about where they were born.
Put it another way, an all-time XI of players never to make it to the WC semis will be as stacked as any XI made of players who won the WC. How can "the most prestigious trophy" be available only to a select few?
When were they born again? Like I said, it's a generational thing. For players born in the late 80's - early 90's, I highly doubt they'll choose to go their entire careers without winning a CL and win a WC, than the other way around.
Nailed it.
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CatalinR10
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Hahaha, did this really happen or is it super imposed?
ffs kiss him masche , kiss him like you would kiss tello <3
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Kohe321
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But that clip is only from a camera pointed at Messi and Masch the entire time, that kisscam screen would be on a separate monitor in the arena. As far as I know, that's the thing that is cracking them up at the end of the clip
Could be wrong though.
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