10 - Lionel Messi - v5

[Raketa10]

We can all blame a shit argentina team and higuain for everything and it won't be wrong but messi has played crap in most big games for argentina recently.

Bad for semis and finals of the WC, all the finals of copa he lost too IIRC. Really needs to start performing on the big stage.

WTF are you talking about? They wouldn’t even participate in this WC without him? He lead them to Copa America final two years ago! What the hell dude?

 

[JamDav1982]

You're joking, right? Ronaldo offered nothing besides his goals..... simply because he didn't get it much.... simply because Portugal was playing counter-attack football.

He did.

You either didnt watch or are in denial.

Ronaldo was the best player on the park by a fucking mile.

 

[xxxxxx]

Yes, because Ronaldo runs off the ball, he doesn't walk. That's why he gets more space.

No.... because he plays in a system that plays counter-attack football.

 

[La Furia]

You're joking, right? Ronaldo offered nothing besides his goals..... simply because he didn't get it much.... simply because Portugal was playing counter-attack football.

Nothing besides his goals...goals are what win games for you, not possession and fancy stepovers.

 

[JamDav1982]

Messi has played well in this half just being very patient so far.

Hopefully they can lift it as this Iceland team is not great at all.

 

[Raketa10]

Messi only gets the ball surrounded by 2 or 3. It's probably his fault because he doesn't move, but at least his teammates should be exploring the free space that Messi gives to them.

He is moving all of the time today! What game are you watching?

 

[ronniecro]

Yes, because Ronaldo runs off the ball, he doesn't walk. That's why he gets more space.

well ronaldo does not leads nor creates ever attack like messi does,how can you expect messi to run all the time when his teammates don't know what to do without him

 

[JamDav1982]

No.... because he plays in a system that plays counter-attack football.

Because he can.

Messi cant to same level.

Playing to best players strengths.

 

[dickbutt]

He did.

You either didnt watch or are in denial.

Ronaldo was the best player on the park by a fucking mile.

Lol what. He was trash and managed to score lousy goals

 

[RevoTeller]

You're joking, right? Ronaldo offered nothing besides his goals..... simply because he didn't get it much.... simply because Portugal was playing counter-attack football.

You clearly didn't see the match.
On a counter he hit like 40 km/h at full speed, and then he provided a superb first-touch assist to one of his teammates who just tripped on himself in front of the goal.
That action alone is worth more than the whole first 45 minutes of Messi.

You can see mental focus, power, technique, attitude.

Messi is dead inside.

 

[Raketa10]

Dybala needs to play for this team and Banega also. Di Maria is a deadwight.

 

[MessiTBE]

They have bus parked. Very difficult for ANY player to do that much against bus

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

No.... because he plays in a system that plays counter-attack football.

Exactly. Of course he has space when he is just waiting for counters vs Spain.. Argentina is trying to create something and dominate the possession. Ronaldo would do nothing with system like that. Ronaldo strengths are running fast straight and kicking the ball

 

[henias]

Ronaldo plays in a completely different system with a different skill set. Messi is never gonna thrive under such a deprived team like Argentina, by the style they are playing he is gonna get suffocated with 3 to 4 men constantly marking him. To make it worse, Argentina players are physically slow and extremely short in stature compared to Iceland. Technically they are very very mediocre as well.

 

[xxxxxx]

Nothing besides his goals...goals are what win games for you, not possession and fancy stepovers.

A penalty, a shit shot ending in a horrible mistake from a goalkeeper and a good free kick with De Gea being lazy and not moving..... and De Gea is supposed to be the best goalkeeper in the world. Ronaldo's free kick conversion rate is like 2%.