10 - Lionel Messi - V6

feggydinho

Senior Member
His work rate and positioning is a horror show. Not that his teammates are world beaters, but when he doesn`t have the ball he just stands somewhere like a statue. No wonder no one can find him in a dangerous position.
Exactly, when he was young he was always making himself open and trying to get the ball and create something dangerous, now I don't know what happened to him (I still suspect the GOAT status got to his head).
 

clemente

New member
When his teammates get the ball, his brain is just registering that they will lose it in a second, I am sure with Xavi/Iniesta he would be running way more than with those cluckers around him, I don't know who that RB is but holy shit even Roberto has a better grasp of the game.
 

eaman

Active member
I saw Messi pressing on a good few occasions and also making runs off the ball. He's not going to do it all the time and the times he doesn't ye just seem to notice more.
 

Afromaticz

New member
You can tell he's got no motivation after this long season, and one can't blame him.


Lol the excuses made for Messi are somethin else.
The guy was utter shit so far at this tournament but funnily
enough its never his fault.
How can you not be motivated to play for your county? No matter how shit your team is if you can't be bothered stay at home and enjoy your well earned holidays
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
Lol the excuses made for Messi are somethin else.
The guy was utter shit so far at this tournament but funnily
enough its never his fault.
How can you not be motivated to play for your county? No matter how shit your team is if you can't be bothered stay at home and enjoy your well earned holidays

It wasn't an excuse but an obvious observation. He's obviously motivated enough to try and carry this shit team once again, but he probably won't be very surprised if they crash out soon.

And how the hell is lack of motivation someone else's fault, who am I blaming with my post, according to you?

Messi was enormously motivated this season and it ended with a huge disappointment. He's doing what he can with the mental block that's still in his head. What he needs is to recharge his batteries. Playing with a team that's let you down numerous times the past 10+ years isn't going to help, but he's still doing it because he feels he owes the Argentinian fans. And Messi has still been Argentina's best player so far in the tournament.
 

feggydinho

Senior Member
You can tell he's got no motivation after this long season, and one can't blame him.

And whose fault is it, he should better find his motivation because Coutinho, Arthur, Suarez, Vidal and other Barça players are still motivated are performing for their countries (they all had long seasons too) . You always see Ronaldo being motivated, so motivation isn't an excuse again. If you aren't motivated as a captain, what more can your teammates do?
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
And whose fault is it, he should better find his motivation because Coutinho, Arthur, Suarez, Vidal and other Barça players are still motivated are performing for their countries (they all had long seasons too) . You always see Ronaldo being motivated, so motivation isn't an excuse again. If you aren't motivated as a captain, what more can your teammates do?

Should just go to portuguese Walmart and buy som motivation then.

Players have different mentalities.
And the rest of our South American guys you name are all coming to functioning teams with high spirits and they also don't have the burden of carrying a whole nation on their backs, just for idiots to throw shit at them because they somehow can't win on their own.
 

Ritchie

New member
Lol the excuses made for Messi are somethin else.
The guy was utter shit so far at this tournament but funnily
enough its never his fault.
How can you not be motivated to play for your county? No matter how shit your team is if you can't be bothered stay at home and enjoy your well earned holidays

It's not that he's not motivated, watch him in a Barca shirt and he's walking most of the game and comes to life sporadically. He's just not on the same wavelength of any of his team-mates, but when he seems to be a reason why Dybala and Icardi aren't playing for Argentina then you have to see him as part of the problem.

Take out Messi though and they wouldn't have got near the last World Cup and might not have got out the group here. This is a moribund national team that can only be reinvigorated by a new generation of talent that seemingly isn't there. They're a bit like the Holland side who couldn't qualify for the last World Cup or Euros when the Robben/Sneijder/Van Persie team came to an end. But now they've got Van DijK, De Lijt and De Jong etc coming through. All Argentina have produced of a high quality in a good while is Dybala and Icardi and neither are playing.

He does look like someone who knows they can't win the tournament, like at the World Cup. For a one off he can produce an Ecuador level super performance but he can't do that every few days in a summer tournament after a long season. Not at 32 with poor stamina levels. Just maybe if they can get past Venezuela he'll have that super performance in him against Brazil.
 
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Tazim

New member
[tw]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="nl"><p lang="nl" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Messi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Messi</a> bij Argentinie in een notendop.. Onmogelijke bal uit de lucht plukken ✅ openen ✅situatie scannen/ positie kiezen om te scoren ✅ bal niet ontvangen ✅ fijne verjaardag 🐐<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CopaAmerica?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CopaAmerica</a> <a href="https://t.co/FhnalPPctL">pic.twitter.com/FhnalPPctL</a></p>— Jos Witt (@jos_witt) <a href="https://twitter.com/jos_witt/status/1143089776842727425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24 juni 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/tw]
 

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