11 - Neymar Jr. - v4

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George_Costanza

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I was reading SPORT's front cover and they were saying Ney and Barca had a Secret meeting in Sao Paulo to discuss his renewal.

and MD's cover it suggests even more Optimism in regards to Neymar staying.

it only mean that the club is bending over to Neymar's demands and he will get his 15m salary he is asking. More financial stress for the club.

I do like Neymar but salaries are getting out of control and eventually will end up like Milan soon.
 
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Flavia

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it only mean that the club is bending over to Neymar's demands and he will get his 15m salary he is asking. More financial stress for the club.

I do like Neymar but salaries are getting out of control and eventually will end up like Milan soon.

15m is the figure he was getting already. He supposedly got offers of 25m net from psg
 

BBZ8800

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25m net is absolutely insane.

but just lol @ wasting your career at PSG.

I don't want to sound rude (towards our club), but:
1. Paris is a capital of Europe. Ney likes celebrity lifestyle, so Paris wins surely
2. Psg is much richer than us. So, bigger wages for Ney in Psg than in Barca over the next 5-10 years surely
3. Psg is richer than Barca, so in the future there is a chance that Psg will buy better players than us
4. Ney already won a CL+2 La Ligas. So, even if he wins nothing (in CL terms), he still has 1 trophy

Further, imo, when Messi will be gone, we (Barca) will be just regular mortals like before Messi.
So, if you play in Barca without Messi (from Neymar's point of view), you will have more or less the same chances to win a CL in a Psg (in a world without Messi).
Again, add a fact that Psg is and will be much richer than us, so there is a high chance that in 3 or 5 years, Top4 clubs in Europe will be: Barca, Real, Bayern and Psg.
Also, there is a high chance that Psg will in 5 years be equal to Barca's strength (once when Messi will be gone). And there is a chance that they will be even better than us, because of money.

So, a reply which we can read a lot how he will ruin his career if he goes away from Barca, isn't 100% accurate.

He will, imo, ruin his short term career since Barca will be better than Psg in the next 2-3-4 years while we have Messi (and possibly MSN)
So, if Ney leaves now, he will ruin his short-term career in terms of trophies.
But long term, it will be probably the same.

Also, if Neymar is egoistic, then people will always say that Barca won CLs, but that Ney was only Messi's little waterboy, more or less.
If Ney moves to some other team and wins a CL for them, he will truly turn into a legend of that team, and into a true Ballon D Or winner.

So, in short, if he stays here, no matter how many trophies he will win, he will always be overshadowed by Messi (Until Messi retires, or if Ney suddenly starts to play way better than Messi, which is highly unlikely)
And a lot of people won't rank Ney's impact too much (me included, because of Messi).

I don't want to cause 10s of replies now: Neymar is not egoistic, etc etc.
All of us are more or less egoistic.
If Neymar wants to be a key player and a best player of some top team, he will have to wait in Barca for 3-4-5-xx years (until Messi retires).
And whatever he wins here, questions will always be raised, like: have we won a title because of Messi, or other guys also had a huge impact?
Or, is it irrelevant whoever plays alongside Messi, more or less?

So, again, for the end, in a team like Psg:
1. his personal life (parties, celebrities, more famous city) would profit more
2. he would earn higher wages there surely
3. Psg may become stronger than us in 3-5 years (due to Messi retiring and Psg being way richer than us)
4. he could shine more on a personal level, as a footballer and a leader of a team there, where he doesn't have to live in anyone's shadow (Messi)

Again, I don't want to cause replies: but Ney loves Barca, he would never do that, blah blah.
I am just saying, try to look at it from a perspective if you were Ney, and forget Barca for 1 second and look at your personal interests (wages) and about your personal career (he can be an absolute leader there).

(And I can sense replies like: he already picked us over Real 3 years ago, he doesn't need money.
Well, that was 3 years ago)
 
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xXKonan

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Seen Gerard Romero retweet this. since it's not been translated here's a crappy google translation.

Neymar has put a condition to seal definitively renewal by Barcelona. The Brazilian striker is willing to continue wearing the blaugrana the coming seasons shirt and decline the dizzying offer PSG to play in Paris , but, beyond the economic agreement, the player wants to stop being protagonist in the courts to focus solely on football . That is why it has asked the club to reach an agreement with DIS , investor group had 40% of Neymar's rights before signing for Barcelona.

The Brazilian company reported in June 2015 the two clubs that sealed the transfer , Santos and Barcelona, ​​in addition to the player himself and his family. Also they included Sandro Rosell and Josep Maria Bartomeu, along with the leaders of the Brazilian club, Luis Alvaro de Oliveira and Odilo Rodrigues for alleged corruption between individuals and scam in the form of simulated contract.

The blaugrana club has accepted the task of Neymar and already has implemented to achieve a definitive solution to the case. A group of emissaries of the legal department of Barcelona plans to travel to Brazil in the coming days to meet with DIS with the intention of reach an agreement that allows settle an issue that concerns all parties denounced, despite the recent pact with the Attorney General and the State Bar plays for the club to certify that the 40 million euros paid to the father of Neymar should considered salary.

Nevertheless, Barcelona is willing to negotiate with DIS. At this time the positions are still far apart. The Brazilian company would ask around 17 million euros to withdraw the complaint , while Barca believes that 7 million are more than sufficient to offset the demand for DIS.
 

BBZ8800

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Nevertheless, Barcelona is willing to negotiate with DIS. At this time the positions are still far apart. The Brazilian company would ask around 17 million euros to withdraw the complaint , while Barca believes that 7 million are more than sufficient to offset the demand for DIS.

So, we paid for Neymar's transfer:
1. transfer fee
2. money to his dad, money to a lot of different parties/agents, signed a deal to have a first option on some youngsters from Santos (and that's another scam since that is again money for Ney's transfer actually)
3. Neymar's wages

Then, later:
4. penalties on court because we cheated on that transfer
5. and now additional 7-17 Millions to DIS?

This transfer surely costs waaaaay, waaaaay more than it was reported in the first place.
 
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Chainsaw

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Neymar’s sister hints at Barcelona exit?

Brazilian star’s stalling tactics on a new contract could mean that he is ready to move on from the reigning La Liga champions.
A resolution on Neymar’s future appears no clearer but the Barcelona forward’s sister has hinted that an end could now be in sight with a cryptic Instagram post.

The Brazil international is yet to pen an extension to his current contract at the Camp Nou having sat out his country’s humiliating exit from the Copa America, but Rafaella Beckran offered a possible indication of where her brother’s future may lie.

On the social media network, she posted a photo of a closed set of double doors on a train.

“I hope you’re going to a place that makes you happy,” the caption read.

How much this might apply to her brother remains unclear, but it’s difficult to interpret the 24-year-old’s reluctance to sign a new deal with Barca in any other way. Should rumours be believed, both Manchester United and Paris Saint-Germain are anxiously awaiting Neymar’s ultimate decision.
 

Sterlingfan2000

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25€ Million net? Thats 60€ Million before Taxes. Its pure insanity. 15€Million accept it or bye. This guy gonna destroy the whole wage structure and our finance and then we can also kiss goodbye to rebuilding stadium.

Noway we are gonna give him and his greedy dad 25€Million net
 

Barcaman

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Help Spanish authorities jail him and his dad if he continues holding FC Barcelona for ransom like this.

Fucking Bale has more integrity and loyalty than Neymar.
 

George_Costanza

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25€ Million net? Thats 60€ Million before Taxes. Its pure insanity. 15€Million accept it or bye. This guy gonna destroy the whole wage structure and our finance and then we can also kiss goodbye to rebuilding stadium.

Noway we are gonna give him and his greedy dad 25€Million net

Greed is like filling a cup with a hole at the bottom, it will never fill. All the millions he is making is not enough obviously, already huge salary + bonuses +he owns 100% of his image right + Nike contract+ making millions out of commercials, his face of over two dozen product endorsements banks, cars, perfume, soda, ice cream, sunglasses, watches, sports gear etc.

His father worse than Gordon Gekko

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Morten

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25€ Million net? Thats 60€ Million before Taxes. Its pure insanity. 15€Million accept it or bye. This guy gonna destroy the whole wage structure and our finance and then we can also kiss goodbye to rebuilding stadium.

Noway we are gonna give him and his greedy dad 25€Million net

Its worse than that, just as Chelski/Psg(any other oil club/Real madrid have driven the prices way up, these agents and players will drive the contract costs up, at the expense of other things. Greedy cnuts.
 
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