11 - Neymar Jr. - v4

[Horatio]

For what it's worth did cut back on all the trickery.

 

[JamDav1982]

What big games has there been since the Arsenal CL games then that Messi and Suarez played well in.

Not saying they didnt play well just wondering what the big games were?

 

[Vlom]

Here we go again, the Messi argument..

 

[BBZ8800]

What big games has there been since the Arsenal CL games then that Messi and Suarez played well in.

Not saying they didnt play well just wondering what the big games were?

Ney was bad in all matches since February.
MIA in a CL.
Poor against weaker teams in La liga finish.

Messi and Suarez were MIA in a CL.
But at least they brought us La liga back in final rounds, with 15 and 18 goals (something like that).

So, one more time, Ney is horrible or a non factor on all levels since February.
His brightest matches are Celtic, Levante, Gijon and similar this season when he banged some goals.

Suarez is poor currently, but he was good till now.

Messi is Messi, and we seriously shouldn't discuss and compare him with players like Neymar.
That's a serious blasphemy, so let's leave Messi out of this.

 

[Total-Football]

you can't say anything about any player today .. they fought their heart out .. the manager fucked us sideways .. playing with no midfield against a team that press well .. you can see that neymar hates loosing ( just like pique) that alone gives him a pass

 

[kadeng]

Can beat 2-3 Players...the others need to use the space better he is creating.

i agree.. but he lacks the intelligence and vision to make the final pass afterwards.
another problem is that he is always receiving the ball too far away from the goal. he is no playmaker. feed him at the edge of the box and there will be no stupid backwards dribbling and such things. it would not be even needed. just outplay the man in front of you and make the shot or a cross

 

[Vlom]

you can't say anything about any player today .. they fought their heart out .. the manager fucked us sideways .. playing with no midfield against a team that press well .. you can see that neymar hates loosing ( just like pique) that alone gives him a pass

He also got nice hair, that warrants another pass.

And the referree was also shit, so that's yet another pass.

Let's just pass on trophies and give him money to stay at home all together.

We can't expect or demand anything from him apparently, and anything gives a pass, so why bother him at all, let him focus on singing.

 

[mark1nhu]

i agree.. but he lacks the intelligence and vision to make the final pass afterwards.
another problem is that he is always receiving the ball too far away from the goal. he is no playmaker. feed him at the edge of the box and there will be no stupid backwards dribbling and such things. it would not be even needed. just outplay the man in front of you and make the shot or a cross

It requires an actual midfield. Without it, he will continue to drop deep, just like Messi (the difference here is Messi being an alien who can play in every part of the pitch).

 

[Vlom]

Messi is Messi, and we seriously shouldn't discuss and compare him with players like Neymar.
That's a serious blasphemy, so let's leave Messi out of this.

Why not bro ? What has Messi ever done for us these last 10 years ?

Every bad minute or lack of kilometers from Messi should be condamned with the harshest standards otherwise it's not fair to Neyboy.

 

[Ahmedd]

[MENTION=20741]Total-Football[/MENTION] It's not just about today. I even think that he wasn't the worst one today. With Neymar it's a bigger problem : we saw what he is capable of in 2014/2015 and they were still room for improvements. But somehow he has been worse and worse, it seems like he doesn't give a f*ck anymore. He is more than decent but he could be so much better if he just passed the ball instead of running into 2-3 players everytime. He has the talent but he lacks the mentality when we need him more than ever.

 

[Total-Football]

He also got nice hair, that warrants another pass.

And the referree was also shit, so that's yet another pass.

Let's just pass on trophies and give him money to stay at home all together.

We can't expect or demand anything from him apparently, and anything gives a pass, so why bother him at all, let him focus on singing.

I have been avoiding this thread lately, because frankly i have read it all .. it's the same shit .. why he's holding the ball , he should let go of his showmanship , pass and move .. i'm not falling into your trap , all i'm saying if you want a winger to let go of the ball as soon as he receive it you might as well sell neymar and buy james Milner , he fits the profile you're looking for

 

[JamDav1982]

Quite well ..

This asshole was the second comming of Maradonna when he wanted to last year.

He should WANT TO every fucking game for what he's paid.

Nothing to with not wanting to win. He works as hard as anyone.

 

[Neymessi]

Ney was bad in all matches since February.
MIA in a CL.
Poor against weaker teams in La liga finish.

Messi and Suarez were MIA in a CL.
But at least they brought us La liga back in final rounds, with 15 and 18 goals (something like that).

So, one more time, Ney is horrible or a non factor on all levels since February.
His brightest matches are Celtic, Levante, Gijon and similar this season when he banged some goals.

Suarez is poor currently, but he was good till now.

Messi is Messi, and we seriously shouldn't discuss and compare him with players like Neymar.
That's a serious blasphemy, so let's leave Messi out of this.

This isn't a comparison for messi. Don't make it sound like one to shift the original argument in your favor. The point is that your reasoning is flawed because going by your reasoning even messi and suarez don't fit your criteria. And for the last time that singing thing was a joke ffs.

 

[Vlom]

I have been avoiding this thread lately, because frankly i have read it all .. it's the same shit .. why he's holding the ball , he should let go of his showmanship , pass and move .. i'm not falling into your trap , all i'm saying if you want a winger to let go of the ball as soon as he receive it you might as well sell neymar and buy james Milner , he fits the profile you're looking for

The profile we're looking for, and more importantly, we PAID FOR is Neymar November 2015.

Now, everyone who's not licking his ass when he plays like SHIT for an entire year is calling for us to get james milner, sounds right.

F*ck this shit, and f*ck the day this swag queen made us his b*tch and took the standards we expect from our star players so f*cking low.

 

[JamDav1982]

Ney was bad in all matches since February.
MIA in a CL.
Poor against weaker teams in La liga finish.

Messi and Suarez were MIA in a CL.
But at least they brought us La liga back in final rounds, with 15 and 18 goals (something like that).

So, one more time, Ney is horrible or a non factor on all levels since February.
His brightest matches are Celtic, Levante, Gijon and similar this season when he banged some goals.

Suarez is poor currently, but he was good till now.

Messi is Messi, and we seriously shouldn't discuss and compare him with players like Neymar.
That's a serious blasphemy, so let's leave Messi out of this.

All three of them were poor for a 3/4 game run late last season. Neymars bad form lasted a bit longer than other two though.

In the CL games vs Atletico etc Neymar was decent and actually better than Messi and probably Suarez despite the goals.

Neymar played well in the run in to La Liga last year also. You are just making things up.

You keep making a point about 'big games'. What are these big games that Messi and Suarez delivered in post Arsenal?