11 - Neymar Jr. - v4

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Neymessi

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No, Alba should get heat because he is Balon d'Or podium player and main man.

Busquets gifted a goal,Ter stegen gifted a goal,mathieu gifted a goal and lucho used this bizarre lineup.

But let's blame neymar for not making us win because he is the main man.
 

JamDav1982

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Break it down however you wish JamDav, call me crazy but this year (again) I remember waaaaaay more games in wish Messi did good by us VS neymar, from the chat, the MotM thread, and my personal feeling but that doesn't count apparently.

I'm sorry but we should expect better from Neymar, I don't understand how you guys don't agree on this, but seriously, it's like having a kid that proved he can get 10/10 at school but goes back to the 6s and 7/10 ... wouldn't you be mad or sad, cause you know he can do better ?

Well that's how I feel about Neymar, he got the raise for the 10/10 alright .. and now he's giving us the 6/10 day in and day out.

I'm sorry but I'm not accepting "this" Neymar as the best he can give us, we all know there's more if he pulls his shit together.

No idea what you are talking about with Messi and Neymar.

I have clearly said Neymar can do better but dont agree he has been as bad in 2016 as some make out.
 

Vlom

Previously known as Mehssi
You were on break weren't you. Are you going to be a regular on this thread again? Please say no,there is already so much hate to add another guy in the anti neymar group :lol:

I'm anti players that do not give their best when we know they can be so much more, and when they are paid to be just that, so, much, more.

You guys can keep calling me hater all you want, check back this same thread from 14/15 or first months of 15/16 and you'll see just how much I defended Neymar against all.. so honestly, I couldn't care less.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I'm anti players that do not give their best when we know they can be so much more, and when they are paid to be just that, so, much, more.

You guys can keep calling me hater all you want, check back this same thread from 14/15 or first months of 15/16 and you'll see just how much I defended Neymar against all.. so honestly, I couldn't care less.

Neymar is giving his best and working hard every match.

That is the last thing he needs to get accused of.
 

mark1nhu

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Still looking for any fanboy denying that "he can and should be doing better".

This thread is straw man fallacy at its finest.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
I'm anti players that do not give their best when we know they can be so much more, and when they are paid to be just that, so, much, more.

You guys can keep calling me hater all you want, check back this same thread from 14/15 or first months of 15/16 and you'll see just how much I defended Neymar against all.. so honestly, I couldn't care less.

True.

Vlom was attacking me in those days :lol:
 

KingLeo10

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it's the price of being a superstar: you didn't see our defence and midfield hogging up the headlines when we were rampant in europe during the treble year. nope it was MSN this, neymar ballon d'or candidate that. so, it's both understandable and fair that he is a held to a higher standard of production and that he takes more heat than his other teammates when we play poorly. oh and the reason suarez isn't being ripped apart this badly is because he hasn't involved in 10 different tax fraud cases and isn't part of an entourage that practically held us ransom over the summer for a contract renewal. maybe that will change in the future.
 

Devils

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His regression in quality and consistency has been shocking.

Still provides the occasional glimpse of it here and there, but overall not even 1/4 of the player he was in 2015.
 

Barcaman

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Are you joking lol? How is this personal? Pretty ironic anyway that this is coming from you lol

lol No lol

You lot keep making personal remarks when someone comments negatively about your posterboy. It happens all the time.
When you are served the same dish, you whine.

And yeah, other players fucked up too but they aren't future "best thing since popcorn" and it's natural that "main guy" will get more heat. Especially when you still have few smartasses claiming he actually played average.
Maybe they meant average for average type of player but they can't defend his performances are average for Balon d'Or aspirant and player who is supposed to lead now.
 

Neymessi

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I'm anti players that do not give their best when we know they can be so much more, and when they are paid to be just that, so, much, more.

You guys can keep calling me hater all you want, check back this same thread from 14/15 or first months of 15/16 and you'll see just how much I defended Neymar against all.. so honestly, I couldn't care less.

Just so you know, I didn't say it in a bad way as maybe you interpreted. He can do a lot more and he will probably no one is denying that but people hold astronomical expectations from him and while that isn't wrong, its wrong when he plays goodish but still gets criticism because for his status that fine performance isn't fine enough.
 

Vlom

Previously known as Mehssi
Neymar is giving his best and working hard every match.

That is the last thing he needs to get accused of.

I'm obviously talking about the level of "football" not kilometers, I don't care about kilometers or trying hard, he didn't get his salary for "trying hard every match", I'm sure Matthieu also tries hard.

We fixed his justice problems, we gave him the raise he wanted, we give him every holiday he wants for completely trivial reasons, but that's all ok, IF we get Nov2015 neymar, if not he doesn't deserve any of it.

Unless you're saying he doesn't have it in him to be any better than the shit show he's giving us lately.
 

Ahmedd

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There is so much drama going on in this thread :lol: Who said that it was his fault if we lost tonight ? I sure didn't because it's Lucho and Steven's fault. Suarez was shit too. But it doesn't change the fact that Neymar can do better overall.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
it's the price of being a superstar: you didn't see our defence and midfield hogging up the headlines when we were rampant in europe during the treble year. nope it was MSN this, neymar ballon d'or candidate that. so, it's both understandable and fair that he is a held to a higher standard of production and that he takes more heat than his other teammates when we play poorly. oh and the reason suarez isn't being ripped apart this badly is because he hasn't involved in 10 different tax fraud cases and isn't part of an entourage that practically held us ransom over the summer for a contract renewal. maybe that will change in the future.

Maybe that is the reasons you look to when comparing players on pitch performance and may explain a few things.

Be better sticking purely to on pitch performances.

No one was 'held to ransom' dont get so dramatic. Virtually every player plays games when new contracts on go or unsettled.
 

Barcaman

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Neymar is giving his best and working hard every match.

That is the last thing he needs to get accused of.

Nope. He doesn't work hard nor does he press as he can.

And yes, he loses countless balls due to selfish "heroic" attempts and directly damages the team.

So you see guys like Suarez can't be blamed for not trying. Neymar lacks the right attitude to be given a pass here and there like Luisito does
 
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