11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

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Donatello

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I guess the good part in this comparison is that in a weak game for him Dembele still had more end product than Vinicius had in his best game yet probably.

Dembele and Vinicius are opposites. Vinicius looks good in his overall movement and technique, but lacks cold blood and tenacity when he has to make a decision. Dembele looks off the pace, half asleep in many instances, but then has moments where he just makes stuff happen on his own and the important part is that those things are very quantifiable for the team, i.e. goals and assists.

Seems like tables have turned. Vinicius is going the Messi way, while Dembele is going the Ronaldo way.

Edit: I meant with the playstyle and impact on the team, & how they are going to turn out in future, not their potential.

I mean like how Messi domainates the whole game, but sometimes still comes short. While Ronaldo, who is sleeping most of the time, suddenly does something impactful and changes the tide of the game
 
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FCBfan22

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Seems like tables have turned. Vinicius is going the Messi way, while Dembele is going the Ronaldo way.

I very much doubt that either will reach Messi on the playmaking scale ever. Plus Dembele is still ahead of Vinicius in that aspect IMO.

Hazard with a few Neymar traits would be more appropriate for Vinicius.
 

MTL_Barca

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Dembele could've had more opportunities to create something, it just wasn't his best day and the rest of the team didn't really link up with him. Wasn't a good game offensively from the entire team after all.

Doesn't make sense to make such a generalized statement for either of them at this point, i'd personally bet both wont turn out to be anything like Ronaldo/Messi playstyle wise.
 

xXKonan

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Dembele on the right is far better than on the left. On the right, he seems to have a lot more freedom as Roberto/Semedo are willing to play second fiddle when needed while on the left He's more constrained as he has to compensate for Alba who wants that open space in front of him.

I always liked the idea of having Messi in the center with Suarez also as an LF with Alba making up for Suarez lack of pace and wing play and tasking the LCM like Arthur to join and support the attack more often. And having Dembele back on the RW if we persist in using the 4-3-3.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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Dembele on the right is far better than on the left. On the right, he seems to have a lot more freedom as Roberto/Semedo are willing to play second fiddle when needed while on the left He's more constrained as he has to compensate for Alba who wants that open space in front of him.

I always liked the idea of having Messi in the center with Suarez also as an LF with Alba making up for Suarez lack of pace and wing play and tasking the LCM like Arthur to join and support the attack more often. And having Dembele back on the RW if we persist in using the 4-3-3.

Exactly! Not to mention Semedo and Dembele play well together. Left side he only seems to be on Albas way..
 

Leo_Messi

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Making the difference again as usual whenever he is present on the pitch. His pace alone ensures that. Even when he has a mediocre or below average game like on Wednesday night his runs without the ball created danger almost every single time and he made those 2 assists as a consequence of those runs. Almost every single danger created on Wednesday night (admitted there was not much of it overall) was his doing.

His importance cannot be underestimated. To win the CL we will need an in-form Dembélé that will have a bigger responsibility and impact on our game than currently. Teammates (Messi in particular) should be looking for him continuously and he should be taking more runs in between the lines given his insane pace. When he does not score he is assisting. World class talent that has enormous potential for further growth which makes it even more scarier for our opponents and promising for us.
 
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xXKonan

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With Dembele, he had age on his side and we needed to be patient with him but at the same time, he also needed to shape up on some aspect with him being late for training and being careless off the pitch and a change of mentality as well. And he did end up shaping himself up and realizing his mistakes.

Coutinho is in his prime and was suppose to come in here and be an instant impact. While he did start off his career here on a positive note, it has all gone downhill for him big time. We can nail Valverde for not exactly being the greatest coach and his system relies to much on individal brilliance but we can't fully blame him for some of Coutinho's issues.

Dembele is a far more flexible player than Coutinho is even though he's 5 years younger and not as experienced. Coutinho is no slouch in terms of pure talent but he's much more of a luxury player at this point in time in this team.
 

Arizona Scott

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I don't know if it is mentioned, but I notice one run of play for Dembele absolutely blew by Carvajal. Off hand I don't recall seeing another make Daniel looking so impotent in a 1 v 1 defending.
 

PhilS

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He is essential now. His interplay with the rest of the offense continues to improve, which was his worst deficiency. The frequency of hideous passes continues to decline. He does not need to constantly dominate. Play well with others, about 3 brilliancies per game, cut the brain-dead suicide passes to the rare frequency, we're growing a Barca immortal.
 

serghei

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I hope those technical deficiencies won't be there during his whole career. Awfully inconsistent with his overall maneuvering of the ball and passing.
 
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