11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

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khaled_a_d

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Thats the thing with you sofa score fans. You are not looking at games, rather you look at score sheet.

I remember the time Arsenal fans said Cesc > Iniesta because he scored 5x as many goals per season. Lol!

So Manu and one of the most accomplished managers in the recent memory are sofa score fans? come on now.
Lukaku is proven in the EPL, that is where Manu play and why they bought him, Morata is also proven in two of the top 4 leagues and in CL.
Dembele has potential, but he has a lot of weakness in his finishing,passing and decision making that we will have to work with it.
Players between 23-26 are always the most costly because of this, they are still young but you get their best years without having to live with their development.
 

Jombi

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Morata is proven player, still more reasonble to buy him for high price then dembele with 1 season in bundes


If morata was 90, how the heck dembele can be 140? Its pure comedy

With this logic, we would continue to buy the Arda Turans of the world while seeing the trophies sail past us. We need to invest in real world class talent. Cant just buy so-called proven average players in their mid to late 20s.
 

Raketa10

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Morata is proven player, still more reasonble to buy him for high price then dembele with 1 season in bundes


If morata was 90, how the heck dembele can be 140? Its pure comedy

Dude Morata isn't worth nowhere near 80 mil...come on.
 

blackrum

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Many thinking we made him do it.

People ever thought that this might actually fuck up for us? Dortmund might go from sitting down and talking with us to shutting down the door completely. In that case Dembele would just have to live with it and do his best for another year.

Ditto. And there's nothing much he can do in a World Cup year but to stop sulking and put in his performances.

One more reason Barça needs to decide on a strategy fast - pay up or drop out. Not take half a week to prepare another offer. The time for negotiating is short as it is and this whole drama I feel has taken off another few days. BVB will want this cleared out before he returns to training and probably either plan with him for the first league game preparation or without him.
 

vlad

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With this logic, we would continue to buy the Arda Turans of the world while seeing the trophies sail past us. We need to invest in real world class talent. Cant just buy so-called proven average players in their mid to late 20s.

Investment in talent is not splashing 100+ m, jesus


Edit: arda was beast in atletico, that is a fact, what happened after, hard to explain
 
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blaugrana1987

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So Manu and one of the most accomplished managers in the recent memory are sofa score fans? come on now.
Lukaku is proven in the EPL, that is where Manu play and why they bought him, Morata is also proven in two of the top 4 leagues and in CL.
Dembele has potential, but he has a lot of weakness in his finishing,passing and decision making that we will have to work with it.
Players between 23-26 are always the most costly because of this, they are still young but you get their best years without having to live with their development.
Proven in EPL, what does that even mean? He can score a goal but so can fucking Giroud and Crouch.they are not worth 90m thats the point. And they dont have talent to EVER be worth that money. Dembele has. He can tribble like few can, he is best assister and chance creator in German league and he is only 19. So I guess that being so good in German league and CL you can say he is Europe proven.

Lukaku still has to play a single CL game.

And btw, they bought Di Maria for what, 70m? Look how good of a job that was!
 

blaugrana1987

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Did morata, lukaku, showed more on higher level then dembele? Yes, yet dembele will cost 30% more
Thats the point, they didnt. Oh but Lukaku scored 23! He is now PL proven and since PL is literally nowhere in Europe that must mean 90m is fair price for the guy!
 

vlad

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Proven in EPL, what does that even mean? He can score a goal but so can fucking Giroud and Crouch.they are not worth 90m thats the point. And they dont have talent to EVER be worth that money. Dembele has. He can tribble like few can, he is best assister and chance creator in German league and he is only 19. So I guess that being so good in German league and CL you can say he is Europe proven.

Lukaku still has to play a single CL game.

And btw, they bought Di Maria for what, 70m? Look how good of a job that was!

Every barca fan would be okay if di maria came in barca after real, form he had in ancelloti CL season was pure magic, nobody was not suprised about his price tag
 

vlad

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Thats the point, they didnt. Oh but Lukaku scored 23! He is now PL proven and since PL is literally nowhere in Europe that must mean 90m is fair price for the guy!

No, its not fair price, but you are saying how 100+ for talent like dembele is okay
 

blaugrana1987

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Every barca fan would be okay if di maria came in barca after real, form he had in ancelloti CL season was pure magic, nobody was not suprised about his price tag
So he was, like Arda, "league proven"? Yet they bought showed absolutely nothing in new clubs and we took major L for it.

Basically, we are buying hottest (or second hottest) prospect in world football as replacement for Neymar. We are buying a guy who played in CL and was top assister and chance creator in German league at the age of 19 and here you are talking about Moratta and Lukaku being "proven". Not only are they not worth that money 80-90m, they are already 4yr older then Dembele and have far lower celling.

They were bought before Neymar and their clubs didnt have 250m sitting in their lap. You can take 15% of Dembeles final price had he been bought at same time as Lukaku.

Is it all too much? Damn right it is. But we cannot deposit that money and buy average like we did in last few years.
 

khaled_a_d

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Proven in EPL, what does that even mean?

It means a 24 years old striker who still has 8 good years in his career was scoring 16+ goals per season in every year in the last 5 years in England.
His price has merits, whether we like it or not.
Dembele has much smaller sample size and in a different league and shorter amount. This things drive the price down, it doesn't make him 2nd most expensive players in history at least, he isn't better than Pogba when he was sold for example and that was only one year ago. BVB is simply taking advantage of us.
 

Centauri B

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Many thinking we made him do it.

People ever thought that this might actually fuck up for us? Dortmund might go from sitting down and talking with us to shutting down the door completely. In that case Dembele would just have to live with it and do his best for another year.

No one shuts the door when a lot of money is involved.
 
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