11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

[Raketa10]

You can see from his long legs and big thigh muscles that Dembouz will always be prone to hamstring type injuries.

Long legs have nothing to do with flexibility. And tight muscles can be easiliy solved with stretching. I hope they are working on that with him.

To be fair, no one knows who's at fault here but Dembele should know his own body and condition well, if he was indeed feeling discomfort and pain then he shud have voiced it out again before the match to Valverde or whoever. No point pushing himself when he is clearly not 100% ready or confident. His face shows it all in the clips.

He would have told them but he doesn’t speak spanish or he has switched left for right again.

 

[Centauri B]

Who do you trust more? Dortmund and Barcelona scouts or BBZ's judgment based on YouTube videos?

It's official - Ousmane Dembele is a retard.

The vast majority of players are quite dumb and borderline illiterate. Nothing new here.

 

[Windhook]

When did he get hurt? Stemming back to the Celta match??

Probably. Also made matters worse with two or three 30-40 meter sprints yesterday.

 

[serghei]

It's a 3 weeks injury, not that big of a deal. But if indeed Dembele doesn't speak out regarding any discomfort he might have then he needs to stop that ASAP. But we all need to chill the fuck down. It's not like he broke his ACL two times in a year. Muscle injuries can happen and aren't uncommon. Certainly don't indicate a player is injury prone or whatever. He's very young and is still developing his body.

Our medical staff needs to watch him more carefully.

 

[Centauri B]

I just don’t understand why they didn’t intervene when he was feeling discomfort against Celta?! That’s the main problem. To be fair I am not even sure if they are telling us the truth.

This.

Funny you think that because I think we will actually play them less with Coutinho signed and Paco coming back.

I sincerely hope you are right.

 

[Aryagorn]

What!? He injured again!?

 

[BBZ8800]

It wont matter, he will find a way to contour the story so that it fits his agenda to spew hate.

For example, Neymar could have registered 50 goals and 25+ assists last season but BBZ would still stick to his argument that Neymar is a Barca failure because Real Madrid managed to win 3 CL titles in the 4 seasons that Neymar was a Barca player.

Ok, it is offtopic, but please, enlighten me, how do we measure a success of a certain player?
For me, personally, a player has improved a team if you can see a difference in results, trophies. Or in worst case, in displays on a field, but that is very subjective, since, you see, some thinks that Dembele is our 2nd best player already (because he has nice dribbling skills, while others will keep him on the bench and play EV's 442).

In 4 years BEFORE Neymar:
Before Neymar: 3 La Liga titles in 4 years
With Neymar: 2 La Liga titles in 4 years

Champions league:
Before Neymar: 1 title in 4 years
With Neymar: 1 title in 4 years

CDR:
Before Neymar: 3 titles in 4 years
With Neymar: 3 titles in 4 years

I could add: after Neymar.
This team, with Messi, will win at least 2 La ligas in 4 years, and there is a nice chance that we will win 1 CL in 4 years.
So, we will be again be THE SAME without Neymar, or who knows, maybe even more successful than with him.

Now, if you compare a team, BEFORE a player, DURING his time here, and AFTER his departure, and if results are more or less the same all the time (or even better when he is not here), can you explain to me: what to think then?
I know that there are 100s of variables.
But still, Barca wasn't weaker BEFORE Neymar than with him, and we aren't weaker TODAY without him, than with him.

So, instead of saying: Neymar wasn't a success here, I will say:
He didn't raise our game to a higher level, as we expected when we bought him.
And Barca is more or less, equally as successfull, with or without him in our team.
I mean, when we bought him, the idea wasn't: to stay equally as good or to turn into a weaker team, but to improve our team, right?

On the other hand, remove Messi from our team, and you'll see a huge drop in results.

And please don't reply: we sucked during Neymar because of Lucho.
If you reply this, I surely won't reply to that kind of replies.

During Neymar we sucked, well, because of Neymar.

 

[Windhook]

After the game against Real Sociedad, Dembélé had a problem with his left thigh and test have confirmed that the player has suffered a hamstring injury of the semitendinosus muscle that does not affect the area operated on earlier in the season. The injury will mean he will be out for a period of around three to four weeks.

 

[henias]

Long legs have nothing to do with flexibility. And tight muscles can be easiliy solved with stretching. I hope they are working on that with him.



He would have told them but he doesn’t speak spanish.

I mean, he could literally just point to his leg before the match and Valverde would take extra attention and know something's not right. I think him being shy and eager to play and not wanting to make a big fuss out of an old injury would try to hide it.

 

[BarçaBarça]

What are people raging about? This is an opportunity for Valverde to keep playing his (favourite so far, and very effective) defensive-minded 4-4-2.
I really don't see the big problem here, although it could be a psychological hit for him to be out a little longer.

The world hasn't ended, he isn't a flop, this doesn't prove that he will be our Bale in terms of injuries, and he isn't stupid because he can shoot with both feet and therefore can't pick a favourite when asked about it.

 

[henias]

What are people raging about? This is an opportunity for Valverde to keep playing his (favourite so far, and very effective) defensive-minded 4-4-2.
I really don't see the big problem here, although it could be a psychological hit for him to be out a little longer.

The world hasn't ended, he isn't a flop, this doesn't prove that he will be our Bale in terms of injuries, and he isn't stupid because he can shoot with both feet and therefore can't pick a favourite when asked about it.

A 442 at half time and then a switch to 433 is most effective to be honest. Dembele is supposed to be integrating to the team as a weapon against Chelsea so it is obviously not something insignificant. I'm not too particular about it though, and maybe it's time for Arnaiz to step up and see if he could potentially be of good use for us in the CL campaign.

 

[Centauri B]

I just don’t understand why they didn’t intervene when he was feeling discomfort against Celta?! That’s the main problem. To be fair I am not even sure if they are telling us the truth.

What are people raging about? This is an opportunity for Valverde to keep playing his (favourite so far, and very effective) defensive-minded 4-4-2.
I really don't see the big problem here, although it could be a psychological hit for him to be out a little longer.

The world hasn't ended, he isn't a flop, this doesn't prove that he will be our Bale in terms of injuries, and he isn't stupid because he can shoot with both feet and therefore can't pick a favourite when asked about it.

2 main reasons why people are losing it after these news.


a) We spent around 300m euros on two mega-signings after the Neymar debacle and we have not seen any of them play yet. Fans are always super-eager to see the new players contribute.

b) We are now entering the business end of the season, and we are still almost 100% reliant on our old ranks, Messi, Suarez, Alba etc who are being overplayed.

Is Umtiti at least ready to return?

 

[BBZ8800]

One thing is normal IQ and another is football IQ.

A lot of people call Messi retarded but he is a football genius.

Messi is one of rare examples of a guy who doesn't look like the brightest as a person, and yet is Einstein on a field.
But he is Messi, so let's not compare humans with him.

With majority of other guys, if he is dumb outside of a field, he will surely prove the same IQ skills on a field also.
Also, regarding creative players for a team like Barca, you need a very high IQ and ability to "predict" future and movements of your opponents and teammates.
Like Ronaldinho, Henry, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets etc.
Not an IQ of a surgeon, programmer or an engineer, but a nice IQ compared to other footballers.

"A brain" of a team like Barca which relies on extremely complicated tactics and movements, will never make it without extremely smart leader.

Feel free to quote me on Dembele's IQ in 6 Months.

It's hard to take some of BBZ's posts seriously at times because of this stuff.

It seems like he's waiting for the kid to do something he didn't like and BAM he comes out with paragraphs full of things trying to tear down the dude for one thing he didn't like. Dembele is 20 years old, of course he's not a finished product.

He's simply not patient enough and he wants players right off the bat to be finished articles. I like some of BBZ's posts but sometimes one needs to show more patience especially Dembele case who's still 20 years old.

Also, feel free to quote me on Dembele's IQ in 6 Months time.
If you have followed my posts, I have never wrote on this forum that Luis, Xavi, Iniesta, Rafinha, Busquets, Rakitic, Pique, Roberto are dumb.

I have write though that Alexis, Halil, Adama, Alba lack in that department.

I can't explain yet, but something in Dembele's eyes, body language, interviews and now decisions on a field is raising huge red flags in my brain.
I am not saying that he is on a level of Halil or Alexis.
But it seems that he surely won't be on Ronnie's or Xavi/Iniesta's level either.

But hey, if my estimations are true, we will come back to this topic 100s of times in upcoming months and years after Barca's matches.

 

[FCBfan22]

A 442 at half time and then a switch to 433 is most effective to be honest. Dembele is supposed to be integrating to the team as a weapon against Chelsea so it is obviously not something insignificant. I'm not too particular about it though, and maybe it's time for Arnaiz to step up and see if he could potentially be of good use for us in the CL campaign.

Arnaiz can't play in CL. I think the B team players need to be at the club for at least 2 years to be CL eligable.

I can't explain yet, but something in Dembele's eyes, body language, interviews and now decisions on a field is raising huge red flags in my brain.

This? You can tell how smart a person is from how outgoing they are?

So David Lee Roth is Einstein in your book?

 

[slvtn]

The whole transfer money will pay off when he scores his first Barca goal in 2021.