11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

[Calidad]

Nonsense he played right mid at Dortmund with Macro Reus Left mid.

He played wide in a 4-3-3. Not a 4–4-2

 

[henias]

Dembélé is not a wide midfielder. He is a forward. If you want to play him in midfield you should play him as a CAM.

He's a not a wide midfielder per se, but he still functions generally the same area and has done it pretty well. Vidal was never a right midfielder as well, and failed to provide anything offensively and cant even complete accurate passes, dont know how all of this this bring stability. They all are very inconsistent and aren't defensively superior as well. So might as well just put Dembele as a wide midfielder and he would have served the purpose of an extra man pressing just like the rest, only to be much more effective in the final third.

 

[The Great One]

He played wide in a 4-3-3. Not a 4–4-2

I know he never played 4-4-2 but in Germany most teams play with wide mids not wingers check out Dembele's Fifa cards for proof http://www.futhead.com/17/players/61031/ousmane-dembele/lies

 

[BarçaBarça]

I hope he gets a full match against Malaga, if he isn't to start against Chelsea. Maybe 60 there and 60 against Chelsea would be the best thing to do.

 

[vlad]

some people got it all mixed up in their head. reading those comments you would swear playing dembele is more important than the team winning.

Im struggling to understand how barca is having 8 points lead in the legaue, are in cdr final and have great result vs chelsea away, all that with dembele on the bench, dembele the match winner, im starting thinking that dembele on the bench is the way to go

 

[The Great One]

I hope he gets a full match against Malaga, if he isn't to start against Chelsea. Maybe 60 there and 60 against Chelsea would be the best thing to do.

How do you know Iniesta won't be fit for Chelsea?

 

[LeeRomeno]

So u think he just came to Barca this season and deserve to be treated like a brand new player. Was actually comparing his minutes with Dembele, not the entire squad and you already get so fucking triggered. Always nice to see your knee jerk reactions without reading properly whenever I say something here. And where the fuck is Denis then? Seems like he disappeared out of thin air if u still can complain abt Gomes being "frozen for a month".But so what? Gomes is still back in the squad again, with yet another masterful performance.

Noone is treating him as a brand new player. He has been tested here and there, but he is so far from being regular player.
Why compare his minutes to someone who has been injured for most of season, where is the logic in that?
As for Denis, he has played more or less similar minutes as Gomes. 920 vs 970, without unplanned sub in Atletico game, they would have both played same minutes. Actually both were more or less frozen from team since introduction of Coutinho and return of Dembele, they both just fell further in picking order.

 

[Total-Football]

Im struggling to understand how barca is having 8 points lead in the legaue, are in cdr final and have great result vs chelsea away, all that with dembele on the bench, dembele the match winner, im starting thinking that dembele on the bench is the way to go

with the way he is playing and his nervousness it is the way to ho, at least until next season with proper pre-season to kill off the excuses. Football fans are fanatical by nature,a skillful player will always appeal to their taste, but the coach s job consist on finding the winning formula and not satisfying the appeal.

 

[BarçaBarça]

How do you know Iniesta won't be fit for Chelsea?

Reliable sources like CAT Radio say 3-4 weeks.
So Coutinho to get a full game against Malaga, and maybe Dembele + Paco up front to rest Suarez and Messi.

 

[MessiCam]

He's a not a wide midfielder per se, but he still functions generally the same area and has done it pretty well. Vidal was never a right midfielder as well, and failed to provide anything offensively and cant even complete accurate passes, dont know how all of this this bring stability. They all are very inconsistent and aren't defensively superior as well. So might as well just put Dembele as a wide midfielder and he would have served the purpose of an extra man pressing just like the rest, only to be much more effective in the final third.

The zones may be similar but the roles are very different. Playing wide in a 4-4-2 is very different from playing in a 4-3-3 or 3-4-2-1 (which Dortmund often played). He has very seldom played in a 4-4-2 (I followed Dortmund under Tuchel with great interest). Playing in a 4-4-2 forces you to drift inwards a lot to setup and receive combinations.

In a 4-3-3 you can play alone with your fullback. That's where he excels.

 

[henias]

Noone is treating him as a brand new player. He has been tested here and there, but he is so far from being regular player.
Why compare his minutes to someone who has been injured for most of season, where is the logic in that?
As for Denis, he has played more or less similar minutes as Gomes. 920 vs 970, without unplanned sub in Atletico game, they would have both played same minutes. Actually both were more or less frozen from team since introduction of Coutinho and return of Dembele, they both just fell further in picking order.

You are constantly missing the point. The fact people here are so quick to judge Dembele on his first season here depsite his injuries as compared to Gomes who has already been here for a season and a half. 40 over games for Barca and Dembele only literally 7 games, with injuries in between. And u jumped at me for no reason thinking I was comparing your Gomes with the rest of the sqaud. Just getting plain annoying now.

 

[MessiCam]

You are constantly missing the point. The fact people here are so quick to judge Dembele on his first season here depsite his injuries as compared to Gomes who has already been here for a season and a half. 40 over games for Barca and Dembele only literally 7 games, with injuries in between. And u jumped at me for no reason thinking I was comparing your Gomes with the rest of the sqaud. Just getting plain annoying now.

What? Gomes has played over 70 games for Barcelona. I'm sure of it.

 

[LeeRomeno]

You are constantly missing the point. The fact people here are so quick to judge Dembele on his first season here depsite his injuries as compared to Gomes who has already been here for a season and a half. 40 over games for Barca and Dembele only literally 7 games, with injuries in between. And u jumped at me for no reason thinking I was comparing your Gomes with the rest of the sqaud. Just getting plain annoying now.

You do realize you are talking about DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Tell me who exactly, name names, who is praising Gomes and at the same time trashing Dembele. This is not a common theme on this forum or anywhere. There are a few trolls who trash Dembele and then there is 90% of this forum trashing Gomes. How you actually compare those 2 is just plain stupid. Oh and i jumped on you for the same reason I always jump on you: your posts just stand out as the ultimate expression of constant whining and dumb conclusions, so they deserve a proper response.

 

[henias]

You do realize you are talking about DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Tell me who exactly, name names, who is praising Gomes and at the same time trashing Dembele. This is not a common theme on this forum or anywhere. There are a few trolls who trash Dembele and then there is 90% of this forum trashing Gomes. How you actually compare those 2 is just plain stupid. Oh and i jumped on you for the same reason I always jump on you: your posts just stand out as the ultimate expression of constant whining and dumb conclusions, so they deserve a proper response.

Dont even bother reading. Back to ur same agenda and topic again. Plenty of people supported Dembele being on the bench and the likes of others like Gomes to be fielded. They dont have to praise Gomes, but they certainly wouldnt mind having him. Can talk about Gomes trashing all day but tats not my main point.

 

[omidferoz]

I Feel like every player that leaves dortmund has a tough time. did any dortmund player ever got any succes outside of dortmund?