11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

[BigBarcaBoy]

Seems to a lot of press briefing against the lad, all a bit sad and pathetic really

 

[Joan]

The top coaches I would like at Barca all want to help their young players develop in the best way possible under the best possible circumstances. They see the potential and help cultivate it. They form them as players and let them make the mistakes that are necessary to form themselves. They give them chances and show that they trust them. Especially in times of adversity.

Doesn't Valverde trust him in times of adversity? He plays whenever we are a goal down.
He started him vs. Juve, also. No point there.

Valverde is like Mourinho. He sees Dembele as any other short-term means to his ends. Just another player that has to fight for his spot with what he can offer right now.

And you know that how exactly?

Won't argue about Mourinho with you, but he plays younger/domestic players more often since joined United. McTomminay, Rushford, Martial etc.

We played Girona, Las Palmas, and Atletico in a week - Dembele played in 2/3 of the games. What's your point?



You come here and whine because he didn't play ONE MATCH. Also, did you see the article I posted above?

 

[JamDav1982]

The top coaches I would like at Barca all want to help their young players develop in the best way possible under the best possible circumstances. They see the potential and help cultivate it. They form them as players and let them make the mistakes that are necessary to form themselves. They give them chances and show that they trust them. Especially in times of adversity.

Valverde is like Mourinho. He sees Dembele as any other short-term means to his ends. Just another player that has to fight for his spot with what he can offer right now.

All coaches are like that.

This myth that top coaches play players just to develop is not based on any reality.

Valverde is nothing like Mourinho.

 

[FCBfan22]

Well, he'll learn that, here at Barca, Madrid-based media use every picture to try and destroy your focus. Even if it's a picture of him with a fan outside a club, during a day off, sober. The shitty pages of football like Don Balol or similar use those pictures to summon as much fake news as possible.

Nobody really knows what is happening behind the scenes. I heard some things about a basketball player from a first league spanish club, from a guy, who went on a night out with him.

 

[Danic]

All coaches are like that.

This myth that top coaches play players just to develop is not based on any reality.

Valverde is nothing like Mourinho.

Pep does this. I can remember how he play busi way more then yaya toure despite he was a top and experienced player at that moment. But see what busi became with peps treating.

 

[Raketa10]

Well when you get paid 105 mil you can expect press to be all over you if you don’t perform. He will have to learn how to carry that burden or it might get ugly for him. He simply needs to start performing. He can respond only on the field and during training.

We paid 105 mil for him so there is no way in hell we’ll let him destroy his career. I also doubt he is OK with this situation since he chose BVB over Barca in order to develop. If he was only about the money and fame he would have came here one season before. I believe in this kid and I am sure he will become a world class.

 

[Danic]

But dont forget. He has to stand on the field for this
Everyone should get it now. Valverde is no coach to evolve players...

 

[LeeRomeno]

What's wrong with that? He gets a free pass to big games despite so many fuck ups. Those saying Dembele should be benched are not saying the same for Gomes and think he provides more. Yet one has played so much more than the other.

What big games rofl. Majority of Barca fanbase would not want Gomes near the field. I mean how many times have you heard player being booed. It is just current situation, if Dembele would have had different season, who knows what our lineup would have been. But he did not and his performances after coming back have been not really mind-blowing. So once Iniesta had to be subbed Valverde had choice between slippy D, defensive behemoth Vidal, totally off form Paulinho or relatively fresh Gomes. As the result showed, he made correct choice. Does not mean it's a fact he will always select Gomes ahead of him rofl.
Honestly, as a manager I would have not trusted Dembele to play vs Atletico in such a crucial game considering all circumstances as well.

 

[JamDav1982]

Pep does this. I can remember how he play busi way more then yaya toure despite he was a top and experienced player at that moment. But see what busi became with peps treating.

Busi was good enough though. He didnt just become the player he is from Peps training.

Pep was quick to dump Chygrynskiy and would play Busi, Adriano or Toure at CB ahead of a young player not seen as good enough.

 

[Danic]

Come on. Busi came right out of la masia. And toure was performing better then busi. Still pep gave him more and more time pretty fast. Not the training that counts alone.

Im pretty sure not many coaches would have handled it that way with a player like toure.

 

[JamDav1982]

Come on. Busi came right out of la masia. And toure was performing better then busi. Still pep gave him more and more time pretty fast. Not the training that counts alone.

Im pretty sure not many coaches would have handled it that way with a player like toure.

Busi was still good enough and performed when given a chance. Pep was not the same with players he didnt think ready.

 

[Danic]

Ofc he was good. What has this to do with my comment? U cant develop a player without potential.
But a young player was given many game time to develop. U said this is a myth and i said pep is coach who does this. Even with a better proven player on the position. U think a coach like valverde would do it in this way with a player right out of la masia? No way.
Ur comment was just wrong and now ur just jumping from one thing to another...

 

[JamDav1982]

Ofc he was good. What has this to do with my comment? U cant develop a player without potential.
But a young player was given many game time to develop. U said this is a myth and i said pep is coach who does this. Ecen with a better proven ppay on the position. U think a coach like valverde would do it in this way with a player right out of la masia? No way.
Ur comment was just wrong and now ur just jumping from one thing to another...

Chygrynskiy wasnt.

Difference was that one performed and other didnt.

Pep played Busi as he was good enough from the start and got better.

Why didnt Bojan progress under him? He got plenty of time.

The ability and performances of the player matters a lot more than a manager making them a player with minutes on the park.

Not wrong at all and Pep didnt play players just to develop them and with likes of chygrynskiy was quick to dump them if didnt perform.

 

[Barcaman]

Captains Messi and Iniesta don't strike me as persons who would care that much to get involved. They are quiet personalities and family men with children and don't wanna hassle of 20 y.o. boy to educate.

Think Umtiti was supposed to take him under his wing but maybe Samuel is not really a type with leadership qualities.

 

[ronniecro]

wow,he's surely leaning more on the side of being top notch flop than future prospect for us,and i don't care if he's played 3,5 games for us,his behaviour is ridiculous