20 - Dani Olmo

Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
Temptation said:
Laporta does have his qualities. Don't get me wrong. He's probably a good leader with decent charisma and communication in the press(he's a politician FFS). But he's pretty clueless about the game.


I can applaud the courage he showed to appoint Flick and sack the Catalan media darling Xavi but he's hardly a club building mastermind like the Brighton guys.


Barca won so much from 2006 to 2017 because it was their golden era. It was hardly a recruiting masterclass. Hiring Pep was very risky and not based on data. They just got lucky with Pep and that golden generation of La Masia. Nobody thought Pep would turn out to be a GOAT level manager.


Barca had an unbelievable group of academy players coming through together and they bought the biggest names in the market for the remaining positions spending loads of money.


Laporta is not a total clown. He has leadership qualities but he's anything but a Football mastermind lol.
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Yes, he has charisma, courage and leadership qualities.
That's hardly enough THO.
You also need expertise, vision, and rational planning.

It's like saying that you need determination to build a house.
Sure, but if you don't have any idea and plan on how to build it, determination alone will have you building one part during the day that will collapse in the evening.

Laporta got lucky twice in his first stint: got lucky with Ronaldinho that was his plan B to Beckham,
and then got insanely lucky with Pep, as he found the best coach ever lived out of accident

Luck ends some time THO.
As with Xavi: his unbelievable luck in 22/23 ended badly in 23/24
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
khaled_a_d said:
There is not a single club president who is a football mastermind.
Perez had 1 Liga as his whole major title cabinet in his first 4 years of his 2nd tenure, after breaking every transfer record in history.

Then comes Zidane and Ancelotti, and now Madritistas believe he deserves to has stadium in his name.
Great leaders are about hiring the right guys ,then the right guys hire the right guys etc.
Laporta in his first tenure trusted Crujif and Txiki, and would weigh in between them.
Laporta had Lippi and Mourinho begging for the job, and he was leaning into hiring Mou, when he was told Pep is the right choice by both, he didn't hesitate and hired him with endless support.
He gets the absolute credit for that, as any club president would.
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Hiring the right guys... Correct.

Nowadays that would be hiring a TOP SD, supporting him with TOP professionals in the Sporting Department, and go from there.
Who did Laporta hire as SD? Deco. A 'nobody' in the field, just because he was allied to him.
Just as he does his transfers with Mendez and Zahavi

PS: He does not get credit for Pep, simply because neither Cruyff or Txiki had any idea of the real size of Pep Guardiola as a manager.
They simply wanted a 'from the house' coach, and would not compromise with changing the style of play for Mourinho

Respectable stance by Txiki and Cruyff, but by the same criteria Xavi was handpicked in 2021, who was like a caricature version of Pep.

In the 2020s, given the state of the industry (in scouting, in data, in everything), you don't haphazardly stumble into 'solutions'. You have no excuse not to plan and not to trust the experts.
 
DonAK

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
jamrock said:
Tebas is just trying to destroy us, madridista cunt, but he won't succeed.
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Tebas obviously is not making it easy at all by offering no leeway and changing rules due to pressure by RM, Atletico and Athletic mid-way through the season, but sadly the reason for this mess is still Bartomeu spending half a billion on players that couldn't even recoup 100m for when they left, along with offering every player insane salaries.

The case they presented at a local court was to a judge they hoped and thought would rule in their favour due to the Gavi precedent and being favourable to Barca, but the judge instead shaded us and told us we have to live with the mess we created ourselves lol.

Insane salaries + transfer fees for flops + massive salaries given to every player even when they had no leverage or were as good to warrant + kicking the can down the road with deferred salaries.

And what will happen to the former board? Nothing. Some of the guys are still on local TV or twitter yapping and will probably present themselves in elections in the future.
 
serghei

serghei

Senior Member
I can maybe accept signing flops. It happens, even though signing almost only flops is very rare. But the real proof of Bartomeu's incompetence is the high wages he handed out to abysmal players. Man was living in a bubble. We had bums that were higher paid than Marcelo at Real Madrid :lol:.
 
jamrock

jamrock

Senior Member
I don't even wanna think about freaking rosell and barto smh.

This is why when fools talk about Laporta being lucky and XYZ could do a better job I just laugh my ass off.

We've heard this story before and seen the results.

We are so fucked because of this man it's not even funny.

We will get to the other side of it, but it's made even more difficult by tebas and the la.liga mafia changing the rules mid way through the game and just generally making the more difficult for us than they need to be.
 
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ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Why are we talking about Bartomeu now? He is a disaster, yes.

But that is not the topic here. The topic is why are we signing players without a guarantee that we can even register them? Who is responsible for that?

That would be grounds for immediate resignation by Laporta ; this would be a total disaster. Not only would we have thrown 60m in the bin as well as losing an important player mid season but we are also going to be known for this until we prove otherwise.

So as such I'm going to assume this is all just panic and overreaction and Laporta had a back up plan in case this happened, because in reality, I don't think he would allow this possibility to occur. For sure there is something we can do, whether it be wage cuts, signing some last minute deals or selling a player.
 
serghei

serghei

Senior Member
ajnotkeith said:
Why are we talking about Bartomeu now? He is a disaster, yes.

But that is not the topic here. The topic is why are we signing players without a guarantee that we can even register them? Who is responsible for that?

That is grounds for immediate resignation by Laporta ; this would be a total disaster. Not only would we have thrown 60m in the bin as well as losing an important player mid season but we are also going to be known for this until we prove otherwise.

So as such I'm going to assume this is all just panic and overreaction and Laporta had a back up plan in case this happened, because in reality, I don't think he would allow this possibility to occur.
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Simple. Because we have to sign players to stay competitive and win things. The objective was never to just survive. Fans who trashed the manager who won a League title not long ago should know what the ambitions and expectations are still huge better than anyone.
 
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