20 - Dani Olmo

[Porque]

Hard time getting rid of Gundagon (and Lewy for that matter) now that Flick is here too, who will probably think he can get the best out of them. Germans will think they can play better under him and have more influence, and all those cliches.

Their Valverde to the amigos basically.

 

[jamrock]

As usual lots of straw man arguments here and drawing conclusions that doesn't add up.

No one has expressed interest in buying gundogan, so what are we even talking about.

If you wanna argue we don't need Olmo that's one thing, everything else is irrelevant really.

 

[jamrock]

Maybe flick has seen the truth, than bernal and casado so all he needs at double pivot, with some de jong and Gavi magic.

 

[JamDav1982]

Hard time getting rid of Gundagon (and Lewy for that matter) now that Flick is here too, who will probably think he can get the best out of them. Germans will think they can play better under him and have more influence, and all those cliches.

Their Valverde to the amigos basically.

They would probably back themselves regardless of the coach really. Thats how these players think for most part.

Lewa will genuinely believe he is still one of top CFs in the world and team mates let him down.

Top players unless realise their limitations rarely leave clubs on good terms.

 

[DonAK]

It's not exactly in Gundogan's best interests to leave Barcelona right now anyway. He always wanted to play here. His wife loves it here. He's still a good player now playing under a manager he likes and is from the same country.

And he can leave on free next year unless the club triggers the one year option. More money for him if he leaves for free next summer.

So even if he has offers why would he leave? Guys like Gundogan and even Inigo who they never should have signed due to his injuries aren't as big of a problem as the money they keep wasting to play players out of position or in a role where they cannot show their best version, or like when they sign average players.

 

[jamrock]

Exactly the gundo argument makes zero sense, he was our best player last season and definitely has the legs to play next season, in two different positions, can leave next season and we have a coach he probably thinks is better than Xavi.

 

[JamDav1982]

The issue with Gundo and Inigo is they are just short term signings for a large cost on the books and zero upside at end really... unless help you win.

Those two for two seasons would be 54m on the books.. that money could be much better spent on other areas.

But yes the issue is would they even spend that 54m on areas needed.

Gundo looked leggy last season more it went on and looked old at Euros and Barca need more life going forward than that even if still has quality on ball.

To be fair he also played a lot more than would have been expected.

Gundo on managed minutes and pace/movement on front of him is probably best scenario but looks unlikely with make up of team.

 

[DonAK]

Like imagine if they sign Olmo for 60m and then play him out on the left because they have a lot of depth or guys that can play CAM. He would probably still be useful, but it's a huge waste of what he can possibly be if played in the right role/position. Won't solve our issues at the left flank anyway which is lack of pace and inability to win 1v1.

From what it sounds like right now they cannot even register him or any big money signing currently anyway unless there's a significant sale or the Libero or Nike money comes through.

Will most likely end up with them scrambling for a solution in the end and cooking up something that ends up being a net negative for us in the end.

The Nike deal seem the furthest away considering Nike gained all the leverage after the club was told that they cannot negotiate with other sponsors or break their agreement unless they paid a massive compensation to Nike.

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

Think Gundo has been another poor signing. Had the first touch of a Turkish Lukaku at times, and used to give the ball away in a dangerous area at least once per game , a la Busi or Sergi Roberto.

Those lapses of quality were overlooked here as folk really are looking at him through Man City treble tinted glasses. Probably wouldn't be in my starting XI when all mids are fit.

Was average last year, with his fast aging body type, reckon he will becone a burden this season. Could have well done without bringing him at all.

 

[TheStig]

I like Gundo, he was our best player last season but it's clear that signing these old players for free is wrong. They didn't help us win titles and we would be 2nd in the league even without them. That money and minutes would be better spend on some talents or to pay some debts. What we could now do with the money we spent on Lewa, Gundo, Inigo, Romeu, Alonso, Bellerin... That was wrong and the palancas summer was wrong.

 

[Porque]

We can largely maximise the ageing players for another season if we add pace and individual creation out wide. The board lucked out that Lamine broke through so early. Now we should be looking tooth and nail to lesson the burden and support him through the other wing.

Nico showed the model, that we are interested in him is great. But where is option B, C, D?

No mention of Luis Diaz anymore. No mention of any other wide player in the media bar Philomena which was seemingly instigated by his agent.

Olmo as an alternative for 60/70m and being put before the needs of the defensive midfield is worrying.

But let's be patient aye, it's only August and SummerSlam is still a month away...

 

[serghei]

You can't be happy Barcelona is an appealing clubs for signings and then expect players to leave if they have a good contract at Barca. They have no incentive to do so. It goes both ways.

 

[Porque]

Not appealing enough for young players though.

That seems to be the issue.

I don't think many will begrudge Lewy, Gundy, Inigo all leaving Summer of 25 to be fair. But then right now we have no depth, they are on those increasing wage contracts that Laporta promised to drop, and to make matters worse, have auto contract renewals (Lewy is known, I think I read Gundy has too but correct me if wrong) if they hit X amount of games.

We haven't really learned much it seems.

 

[serghei]

It is still appealing like before, but top young players cost a lot of money. The not so top talents, the raw ones are just worried they are not gonna make it to the 1st team.

 

[JamDav1982]

If Olmo comes in that is 250m spent on players in front line alone in 2 1/2 years and can then add the salaries of Lewa etc on 32m this season.

Not sure what top young player Barca are claiming they have not been able to sign due economic situation really.

It is a common excuse when they fail however.